[00:00:00] Speaker A: Today on the Game Sports podcast powered by 91 network features two segments, all hosted by yours Truly, David McCaig Jr. Firstly, I will be joined by Alex Parr discussing all things hockey, in particular the Toronto Maple Leafs and live reaction of Morgan Riley's five game suspension announcement, along with our top five players expected to move at this year's NHL trade deadline. And of course, our redraft segment where Alex and I will go back in time. Time and redraft the top five picks in the 1983 NHL draft. In segment two, known as our in the pocket segment, I will be joined by the usual football crew in our season finale of in the pocket to give you our reaction about the Super bowl and all storylines that came with it. Are you ready for it? Let's go.
Booyah. And it's time for the game sports podcast is your host, David McCague Jr. I am joined by Alex Parr, the one, the only, Alex Parr shooting par, if you wills and gamer tag on NHL, that is. And his PS five username as well, I believe.
[00:01:09] Speaker B: Alex.
[00:01:09] Speaker A: How's it going, my friend?
[00:01:10] Speaker B: Good. I like what you did with the intro there. That was pretty snazzy.
[00:01:14] Speaker A: Snazzy, yeah. I'm even wore a collared shirt for you today.
[00:01:17] Speaker B: Wow, you're really pulling out all these hobs extra today. What's the occasion?
[00:01:22] Speaker A: I have no idea. I have no idea. I figured Dane would be here. But you know what? It's just me and you, and that's, of course, more than enough.
[00:01:29] Speaker C: Of course.
[00:01:29] Speaker A: But I thought I would dress a little extra. We got an action pack show, as I mentioned in the opener. We got a lot of content that we're diving into here. So much content that we had to table some other content, such as the NBA trade deadline and of course, got a lot of sports to get into Pyra. All right, so I want to make sure that I remind listeners that hit like follow and subscribe and all the platforms of the game sports podcast first. All right? You got TikTok, Instagram. We got YouTube as well. That's through 91 n, 91 Network. That's the YouTube channel. We're also on Facebook as well. And you can follow my personal on X if you'd like to. And I'll give you links to the game sports podcast. But those are the core four, if you will. And we don't say core four too lightly on the show sometimes laughing, chirping we're having a good time. That's a good segue to what we're talking about in this first segment. So going to be a lot of hockey discussion. There may be a little cherries, a little sprinkles when it comes to something else being thrown in there. But obviously we have a lot of focus towards the NHL, as I talked about in the opener. And of course, all of you who are tuning in on Instagram go over to TikTok good a following on Instagram. I know there's 80% of you who are listening to the views and the clips on TikTok and Instagram are non followers of the page. Just give us a simple follow. Simple like, it goes a long way for us. You're enjoying our content, you're getting laughs, you're getting chirps. Why not just hit a follow and always be a part of it?
[00:02:50] Speaker B: Yeah, why not get chirped all the time? Follow.
[00:02:53] Speaker A: Yeah, it's great. We have a good time getting chirped interaction. Maybe you agree with us. We love that too. We love it all. Alex, obviously the cat's out of the bag. Obviously it's just yourself and me in this edition. And it's going to be an action packed hockey segment here, of course, with some sprinkles and cherries, as I mentioned. But speaking of sprinkles and you, I don't know if that's a good segue, but probably not. You live in Ottawa and you watched the Ottawa Senators and the Toronto Maple Leafs this past weekend and it's been the talk of the NHL world.
[00:03:29] Speaker B: Crazy. It's crazy. Like more so than Toronto normally is the center of everything. This is really the center of it.
[00:03:37] Speaker A: Really. Right. And right at this time, and I'm going to fully disclose, obviously we're not live. We do pre record the show. It's February the 13th, 06:22 p.m.
[00:03:48] Speaker B: Happy birthday Matt Sundine.
[00:03:51] Speaker A: Love that. Wow. Yes. Happy birthday Matt Sundine, the one and only. The legend would love to get him on this pod sometime soon, but at this current time, Toronto is about shortly to puck drop within the next hour. 45 to this time and we got the eye on the ticker. We don't see Morgan Riley's suspension as of yet. I do have a suspicion that it might come up at some point in this episode because I do presume this will be about an hour long at least episode with all the content that we have. So don't know where that's going to come. But you were there. You were in good seats. You had you with a couple of our mutual friends and the lease lost to a team that they should beat. But that is the story of being in Toronto, being a leaf fan for not just this year, for the past few years. And I'm not going to get into some reaction about that yet. We're going to talk about the Ottawa, senators and Leafs game. But one thing in particular. Ridley Craig decides to go down the empty net, wind up for a slap shot, Brian Walston style. Okay. You know, you know, fires it. Probably not that fast. No offense. It didn't look that fast. It was a hard slap shot though, in the midsection ish of the nets. Nobody around except Morgan Riley about 10ft behind him, maybe.
[00:05:15] Speaker B: Probably further.
[00:05:16] Speaker A: Further? Yeah, like he was a good distance behind him. And he decides to wind up and lay on a clap bomb on an open net. Nobody around, dying seconds of the game. Morgan Riley at that point decides to and everyone knows this story already, but I'm going to give you a refresher in my own view. Morgan Riley sees that and then all of a sudden, Morgan Riley sees nothing else. Morgan Riley just sees black, red and white jersey, sees Craig on the back. This guy who just says slapshot an open net and thinks one thing, I'm going to make this guy pay for what he just did. That's all that is on Morgan's mind after that. The care about the game, family, friend, everything's out the window for Morgan Riley and Alex. You were there, you saw it. I'll give my reaction in a few moments. I want to know how it was with you being front row center to a degree. You had good seats. You were close. Maybe we're front row center.
[00:06:13] Speaker B: It was cornered to me. It was as far away from me as it could be.
[00:06:17] Speaker A: It could be. But you're still in the 100 level and you were in the Ottawa zone, ten rows up.
[00:06:22] Speaker B: Yeah. The Ottawa end for the first and third. So I was watching the Leafs not get one power play. That's what I was most excited for. I had these low seats right in the offensive zone waiting for a power play. Didn't get one. Of course. Not one. Not one. I watched Jake McCabe get high stick in the face like the stick almost hit me. I was so close.
[00:06:41] Speaker D: I saw it.
[00:06:41] Speaker B: And between me and Jake McCabe was the ref looking in the direction he points at him and.
[00:06:46] Speaker A: No.
Anyway, what's a penalty? What's a penalty anyway?
[00:06:54] Speaker B: I'm not.
[00:06:56] Speaker A: Yeah, you're there. What's the vibe? What was the vibe?
[00:07:00] Speaker B: The beginning of the game felt that was the loudest leaf crowd I've ever heard. I went to the sends game, Leafs game here on a Thursday and it was split even when they said go. Something go. You could not tell if it was Leafs or sends. This game was go, Leafs, go. It was loud.
It was crazy. I've never experienced that for the Leafs. And as the game goes on, it's just, man, is it bad. All Leafs fans around me just starting to get so upset. We're losing to the 20 eigth place team and these fans are making fun of us, chanting pay your taxes to John Tavares. And you see that senator's player wind up and blasted in the empty net on a breakaway. So clear cut.
Yeah. Morgan Riley. Fuck yeah. Smash that, dude. Is it stupid for Ridley Greg to do that? Yep. Is it even more stupid that Morgan Riley cross checked him in the head? Yeah, but you gotta do something. I've heard people that are like, oh, well, maybe you go give him a little slash on the shins. No, he's got to feel it. You can't do that to us. And all of these people with their inputs are saying, oh, that was shitty. You shouldn't have done that. What would you do if the roles were reversed? What would you want your team to do? And now the so called softest team in the NHL will face their extension of the George Perils era.
Amount of suspensions and games suspended. They lead the league since he's took over and they're just going to add on to it because he has an in person hearing. And at this time. 06:26 p.m. We don't know what it is yet. It was awesome. Thank God. That's why brought out my little prop today.
If there hasn't been more true of a time to have this out, I couldn't tell you what it is. I got a good old bottle here for the audio listeners of captain Morgan spiced rum because he's the only guy that gave a damn since he got here in 2012.
[00:09:06] Speaker A: Yeah, honestly, I'm going to say I commented on a few sport outlets and there was feedback on some where, some laughter, some people had their own opinion on it. And at this time, like I said, we're now 627. We still don't know what the result is. I know par is refreshing and I'm looking as well. Yeah, I got nothing when he took that shot. That being Ridley Craig now understanding the game from a player perspective. And yes, no, I didn't play professional NHL hockey. I still played junior hockey and that was it. All right, I'm that guy. Okay. But doesn't matter what level it was.
It's just knowledge embedded into our brain. When there's something that's absolutely just a gong show, act disrespectful, whatever it may be, it's just lodged in. And people that do not follow hockey religiously or understand that and maybe looked at this tape and said, well, he did nothing. All he did was do a slap shot. Opens. No, that's not true. Literally, you go down the ice on open net. All Ridley had to do was tap it in. Like, kudos to Carl weather. Tapping it. Tap, tap, tap. Actually, no, that was Adam Sandler that said that. But you know what I'm saying. All you had to do was tap it in.
[00:10:26] Speaker B: They both said it.
[00:10:27] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:10:27] Speaker A: They both said, okay, good. Thank you. All you had to do was tap it in and that's it. Skate away. Morgan Riley wouldn't have had to do what he did. There wouldn't have been that brawl. We wouldn't be in this situation. That is an absolutely disrespectful and bush league move by Ridley Craig. I don't care. It's Bush and Morgan Riley. Yeah. No attempt to injure. You don't want to say, yeah, break his.
[00:10:50] Speaker B: No, you don't want that. At the time I was saying that. At the time, I was like, kill that guy.
[00:10:56] Speaker A: See, I was on my couch. My wife and I were. We were on the couch. And par will know this when we're watching hockey or even playing HL video game. My dog is very suspicious.
And the reason why is because I've swore at the tv so many times being a Leaf fan and also a gamer. But a leaf fan is the most of the reason why my dog doesn't like hockey. And I actually had a good turn of a leaf this year. That's a pun. When it comes to watching the Leafs playing it, I'm trying to be mature like a 32 year old should be as best as they could. But when that slap shot happened, something ignited in me as a hockey fan and player saying, are you effing kidding me? Are you kidding me? Morgan, tackle him. I was yelling, Morgan, tackle him. Beat him up. I was yelling. I was yelling. And I saw Morgan go for him and said, oh, yeah, let's go. And you could just see it. Like when you see Morgan turn, there was nothing else on his mind. And that was not intended to go for the neck. It was a reaction. It was literally him just seeing one color and reacting. He didn't mean to hit him in the neck. And we're not here to promote attempt to injure. That's not what people want to do. But look, what he did was disrespectful. But I kudos to Morgan Riley as pardon said emotion. I've said it on this podcast numerous times. As my volume levels go to red, my mixer is telling me to turn myself down a little bit when Morgan Riley should have been the one with this c. Okay? And that's no offense to. I got. I am a Tavares fan. I got his jersey right beside me. Okay?
I was jacked when they signed him. I'm still happy that they have him. There's nothing against that. It's just something with Morgan's been there, right? He was in 2013 that collapsed. He's been through the rebuild. He's been through it. And he just showed what he could do by showing that emotion there. I love it. Stand up for your teammates. If Ryan Reeves is on the ice for that Ridley Craig, I think there would have been an injury. I really think Ryan Reeves would have just said no, just soccer them in the face. I really think that's what would have happened.
[00:13:08] Speaker B: I want to go a completely different direction on this.
I understand what Ridley Grigg did, and I don't know how you couldn't. You're barn, 80% cheering for the other team. You've been bad all year and you're coming into this Saturday night and all you can do, the closest you can come to winning the Stanley cup is beating the Toronto Maple Leafs. So you get a chance to put that exclamation mark on it and shut every Leafs fan up in that building. Yeah. Suck on this one, Leafs fan. Bow.
How could you also not feel that way if you're in that same spot? You've been mad all year because your team's bad. You're going to beat a team that you love beating all the time. In that same breath, though, you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes. The only dumb thing about it, I think, is if Ridley Grigg didn't think that was going to happen after. That's really stupid. He opened that can of worms. I kind of get it. And I'm a Leafs fan.
Lead blue. I was screaming for his head to get taken off.
I just think it's hockey and I can't believe that it's like this big of a story. I get it. I do. But it's not Jake Truba two hand overheading somebody's dome. It's not that. Which was only $5,000, by the way, which is crazy. Repeat offender. All that good stuff.
I don't know.
Does that make sense, what I'm saying about really Greg, though, if you were him, I could see that slipping away, especially being young.
[00:14:51] Speaker A: Yeah, there's that inexperienced factor. There's just the emotion of the.
[00:14:58] Speaker B: Fun. It's the battle of Ontario. Are you kidding me? I hope these guys hate each other. And I swear, if they better play their next game here in Ottawa next year, because if they don't, I'm still going to get the ticket to Toronto, hop on that train, go down.
[00:15:13] Speaker A: It's going to be much coincidence they don't play each other till next year.
[00:15:16] Speaker B: It's going to be.
It's going to be so good, man.
[00:15:21] Speaker A: It's going to be a good game. Season opener, no, Montreal, Toronto. You got to give us Ottawa Toronto in that season opener next year.
[00:15:28] Speaker B: Please make it in Ottawa. Let me please go. That would be such a good game to see.
[00:15:34] Speaker A: Overall, we still don't know what the suspension is or keep an eye as much as we.
[00:15:38] Speaker B: What do you think it should be?
[00:15:40] Speaker A: Oh, yes. So on those comments that I was mentioning, I said, no, it's not just a fine.
I don't think it's five games. I'm hearing a lot of rumors that he's going to hit three to five games.
[00:15:53] Speaker B: It's in person. So it's open over to six then.
[00:15:56] Speaker A: Yeah, that, and I know they're doing it virtually right, because he couldn't travel to New York because of weather.
So that's why it seems like it's going to be more.
I said two to three was my prediction. Okay. I didn't give rationale on this one platform. And I had someone comment back and say, you know, automatic, if it's in person, you got to think five games. And I liked his comment. I said, fair point. I responded to this individual, his name was Jay. And I said, that's a very fair point. Yes. But my mind to it was actually directed towards him not being a repeat offender, Ridley not being injured after. Sure acted like, oh, he almost looked worse than Stutzlad's diving. The biggest diver in the league is Stutzla. Man.
[00:16:40] Speaker B: Dave. When Ridley Greg hit the ice, I immediately yelled sniper. And tried to get down because I thought he got shot. He didn't move.
[00:16:49] Speaker A: No, did not move. And he took it in this general area. Okay. He didn't take it in the temple. He didn't take it in the jugular.
The Adam's apple. Okay. It was a cross check that was impacted with stick and some glove right in here. And he went down like a sack of potatoes. And you know what, Ridley, you won. You got the Oscar, you got the golden. That's not. No, the MTV video award. I don't know, whatever award you got.
[00:17:20] Speaker B: You got kids choice award.
[00:17:21] Speaker A: Nickelodeon. Yes.
[00:17:22] Speaker B: You got it, buddy.
[00:17:25] Speaker A: And honestly, I said two to three games. And just because of those factors with Morgan. Right. The intent to injure, though, was in department player safety. George perils.
It's a very department of safety thing to do to wait on Morgan Riley here about Toronto. That's what it feels like. But I think two to three games, I think he's going to get five. I think is what's truly going to happen. But I'm going to predict to say it out loud.
I said two to three, but I'll say three. I believe Morgan's going to get three.
[00:17:59] Speaker B: There's two answers for me on this. What I think he should get is exactly what you said, two to three. I think that's fair. You can't run a guy down and hit him in the head with your stick. Cross check. Especially when the play is over. You can't do it. Should he? No, not, I don't know what is he going to get though? Oh, he's getting that book thrown at him.
[00:18:21] Speaker A: He's got the papers out. He's got it all out.
[00:18:23] Speaker B: Jason Perpeta got six games as a first time offender with over like 1100 games played. Like, dude, this book, the reason it's taking so long is because George Peros is warming up in the bullpen right now, ready to just let it go and knock him outside the head. Easy six games.
[00:18:45] Speaker A: Flipping the page.
[00:18:46] Speaker B: Okay, easy six games.
[00:18:49] Speaker A: You violated here, here. Oh, you definitely violated, sir. You definitely violated. That's what's happening. You're probably right, which is so un.
[00:18:58] Speaker B: We see Brendan Gallagher, eight times offended, try to take somebody's head off lineside with his elbow or with his shoulder. I don't remember what it was. Four games. Four.
The Jake Ruba two hand lumberjack slam over that dude's head. $5,000. Are you kidding me? But that's the thing. What should he get? I think two to three, but what will he get? Who fucking knows? At the end of the day, there's no consistency. That's all these fans want. If you want to give Morgan Riley six games now and then, that is what happens the rest of the way. On any play that's close like that, nobody would be upset because that was the precedent you set. You're not just in the department of player safety office, spinning the wheel like on the prices, right. Waiting to see what number that suspension is going to be.
Exactly.
[00:19:55] Speaker A: Honestly, Morgan, in that situation, and everyone who's played hockey has been in that situation and hindsight is 2020 all the time. Yeah, but he didn't have to do what he did that way. I think knowing how I react, very aggressive, very angry at times, temper wise, when it comes to sports competitiveness, I would never have thought to use my stick, though. I was always one. If I was in a mess, it was my glove and it would be a shot to the shoulder to get their attention. I was always a believer face to face. Never was I in scrums. Other people, if they know me, will comment and say, dave, you never got. You're right. I was one of those guys that avoided them, Mitch Marner style, Willie Neelander, Mitch Marner style. The way that he just floats to.
[00:20:40] Speaker B: The pile at the end of the game with no care. He knows he's not doing anything. Matthews did nothing. Elander, nothing. I think Tavares grabbed the guy. I think Tavares grabbed the guy.
[00:20:52] Speaker A: He does do that. That's where sometimes grabing and throwing against the boards and starting to punch, which could be worse.
Could be worse if the guy doesn't drop the gloves and you got an um up and you're just giving them.
[00:21:07] Speaker B: Depends who in the eyes of your asking. If you're asking in the eyes of the department of player safety, they would rather that ten times out of ten, especially if you leave your glove on. Are you kidding me?
[00:21:16] Speaker A: Yeah.
Wild Morgan Riley, suspension still to wait. But par was there, saw it, it was awesome in person. Okay. And there's only one out of 18,000 people that can say that.
[00:21:29] Speaker B: Roughly thousand, 400 and something.
And they sent out ryan.
Yeah.
[00:21:39] Speaker A: You know what, Comey? I almost feel like if I was keef, I would have been like, line up. No credit.
[00:21:45] Speaker B: Line up in the fucking face off dot. Are you kidding me?
[00:21:50] Speaker A: He wanted to fight, but they backed off. They backed off. No one wants to lick.
[00:21:57] Speaker B: All night. They were beacon back and forth all night on the ice, back to the bench, beacon, beacon from the benches. And they were both out on the ice for the last 5 seconds and they were beacon, beacon, beacon. I'm like, all right, well, I was.
[00:22:10] Speaker A: Like, oh, baby, we're getting a brawl.
[00:22:12] Speaker B: As soon as they drop the puck right in between them all. Have a good night, folks. Get out of here. Hope your cars are warmed up.
[00:22:19] Speaker A: Honestly, is it bad for me? If I was Keith, I would have went. And when the pile was going on to Reeves and go, I didn't see you go and jump.
[00:22:30] Speaker B: Well, you can't. There's a million cameras. Yeah, there's a million.
[00:22:34] Speaker A: Every camera's on Keith.
[00:22:35] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:22:36] Speaker A: Is he going to Reeves out. The camera went to keef on tv. Yeah, sorry. Went to Reeves and Keith, but it went to Reeves a couple of times. Like everyone's like, what's Reeves going to.
[00:22:47] Speaker B: Thought. I think lately Reeves hasn't been as bad as he was. I think he's been better than the worst that he's been. He still looks like what I would imagine a cartoon fridge would look like if it grew legs and tried to skate. But he doesn't look as bad. He looks engaged. He looks like he's trying.
I know.
[00:23:09] Speaker A: No comment.
[00:23:10] Speaker B: I know. I'm saying he's better than what he was, but that's like saying, like, oh, this bag of garbage that I had today was less stinky than the one I had yesterday. So it's not really saying a whole lot.
[00:23:22] Speaker A: Well, par. You were there. I was thinking of that when it happened. And speaking of the Toronto Maple Leafs. Par.
What? I want a table. And I mentioned what we're going to talk about the same at the first starts. People already know, but we projected if we had Dane here. We're going to do our canadian teams and our rosters.
We're going to hold that for when Dane comes here because we want to make sure we have three of us. Dane's a core part of our hockey segment here, so we're going to make sure that we bring that up. Hopefully we can do that next week.
But one thing that I will bring up that I was going to discuss in the opener is we're only going to spend a couple of minutes on this because I do want to mention something about the trade deadline before we jump into our redraft and then a couple of other points before, and obviously with time sensitivity. So the Leafs right now. Okay.
I wanted to say you were there, so it's good to say it in person. They are not good enough.
[00:24:20] Speaker B: They're not good, period.
[00:24:24] Speaker A: I'll give one thumbs up and not a good way, but if I'm rewinding till to back to September, tree living, man.
Honestly, he tried to bring in guys. They were forwards. Yes.
[00:24:37] Speaker D: No.
[00:24:37] Speaker A: John Klingberg.
[00:24:38] Speaker B: John Klingberg.
[00:24:39] Speaker A: Exactly. You're forgetting about John Klingberg. That's what I told my wife.
Look, Klingberg was supposed to be this offensive juggernaut on this offensive juggernaut of a team and run the power play. And yeah, not really known for defensive, but to be a good impact so it can ease the pressure off Morgan Riley. But he brought in Bertuzzi, he brought in Max Domey. He brought in Ryan Reeves, right. He gave camp a little bit too much money, but he resigned camp. He resigned Willie Neelander. Not going to go there. People saying how he's doing bad because he signed the contract. Doesn't matter, we're not going there. He's done things to try to keep players here and he's brought in players. Bertuzzi has near zero goals in 30 games in the last 30 games played. Max Domi has five goals in the last near 30 games played. Ryan Reeves is. We don't need to discuss about Ryan.
[00:25:31] Speaker B: Two goals in way less games than Bertuzzi's played.
[00:25:35] Speaker A: Fun fact. Thank you for that point. Give a little credit to Reeves. Klingberg did not work out. He's on Roboda island. He's done the Martin Jones project worked nicely. I know he didn't have the greatest of all games, but that one goal we made the toe save and then second save and then he had no help though. That's my point.
[00:25:53] Speaker B: I feel like Martin, he let in some not good goals.
[00:25:56] Speaker D: He did.
[00:25:56] Speaker B: I'm sorry, but overall he let in good. He let in four goals on 16 shots at one point. And a 750 is not good enough. I do not care. I don't care.
[00:26:04] Speaker A: That's a good point. People don't care about before. It's the now. You got to keep consistency, right? And I've saw Jones play in Columbus this year and he was like, he, for a guy who's supposed to be the third know, has done come in and done his job. I have nothing mad against Jones. And no the law, those are. Those are tree living's fingerprints. He's done what he give. It didn't work out. But he didn't know Bertuzzi would work out this way. Domi, maybe he brought him in because the playoffs, right? Bertuzi was good in the playoffs, but you got to get there. But when I look at this Leafs lineup, that defensive core is so thin. If you don't see Riley in that for the next three, four, five, whatever games it may be.
[00:26:46] Speaker B: Breaking news.
Breaking news live.
[00:26:53] Speaker A: Hold on, let me break it.
[00:26:55] Speaker B: Don't look it up. Let me break it here.
[00:26:57] Speaker A: Okay. I'm not looking up.
[00:26:58] Speaker B: Maple Leafs Morgan Riley suspended for five games for his cross check on Ridley Grigg. Five games.
[00:27:09] Speaker A: What the fuck, man?
[00:27:12] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:27:13] Speaker A: Five games.
[00:27:14] Speaker B: Five? Yeah, I told you.
[00:27:19] Speaker A: Break it down.
[00:27:19] Speaker B: What's going through your ad? What's going through your ad?
[00:27:22] Speaker A: I love thinking on the spot. So since that's breaking news, Morgan Riley gets suspended five games for showing emotion as a non repeat offender in a violent hit. But not as violent as I think people are making it. And I think that's a bad call. I hope Morgan can appeal it. I hope there is an appeal. I'm trying to underline the in person hearing rules, but I feel like an appeal that should be able to get back down to three games if you can have an appeal right away. But Morgan Riley, five game suspension, awful.
I don't think he should get five games. That's my reaction. He doesn't get five games.
[00:28:00] Speaker B: He's going to learn his lesson next time. Two hand tomahawk. Chop somebody over the head with your stick and you'll only get a fine. This is how players learn their lesson on what they can and can do.
[00:28:10] Speaker A: Department of player safety is my problem. That's my concern. That is my problem. But I'll combine that to what I'll say now that Morgan's out, the defense is not good enough to win. I'm not saying you need a Christopher Latang prime Latang. I don't know why I thought of him, but I'm not saying you need a prime Nicholas Lindstrom better kind of player on your team. You just need defense that know how to play defense. That's all. I want a guy who block. I want three defensive defensemen, two two way guys and one offensive guy. And Tree living tried to actually build out this way this year, but the guys he brought in weren't the fit. The surprises this year have been Benoit McCabe. Love that pairing.
[00:28:54] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:28:54] Speaker A: Third pairing, great. Cool. Third pairing. They're the second pairing. If not, maybe the first pairing while Morgan Riley's absent. Okay. So that's not going to win you a championship. Third pairing, cool. Brody.
I've started to chirp Brody a little bit on the television. I think I picked my guy this year who to pick on a little bit. But he's also not a first line guy. He is a third pairing defenseman.
[00:29:21] Speaker B: Ottawa, he looks so bad.
[00:29:25] Speaker A: He's a third pairing guy. Par. That's why he's not doing as good, because he is literally a third pairing guy. Morgan Riley is number one guy. Number one defenseman pairing. Not number one one. I think he's a one two, if people understand what I'm saying. I think if you have another good guy. With him, it'd be one of the best defensive pairings in the league, but maybe not. Morgan Riley has done very well this year. So the Leafs, we're going to talk about trade deadline. So that's why this is going to segue. We're not going to devote all this time to the Leafs here because I know par likes to call us a leaf segment sometimes. They're trying to pull away half an.
[00:29:54] Speaker B: Hour out of Dave.
[00:29:56] Speaker A: So it's going to segue us into the Leafs and teams with the deadline. But it's concerning. If you're a Leaf fan right now, you don't point fingers at tree living. You can point fingers at Keith if you want. I don't always see the justice in that. I can see why people get mad about the blender and people holding accountability with players. Sure, you can point fingers at Shannon because he's been here since near the past decade.
So there's fingers to point at. But I think where you got to point the fingers is throughout that lineup. But throughout that lineup, it's just not deep enough. That's the problem. They're not good enough. Are they going to make the playoffs? They probably will.
They'll get in. If they don't get in, that is a failure. That's a big problem. So that's why I can see them getting in. But if you're expecting a run or expecting some storybook ending this year, unless something comes at the deadline that is able to be afforded by the team, then I think there's going to be that continued inconsistency and stress of Leaf fans going into the playoffs. And maybe last year was a treat because we might not see that same treat.
[00:31:00] Speaker B: I lose you, Dave.
[00:31:01] Speaker A: So, Alex, the reason why that segues us into a little bit of the trade deadline. Alex and I are going to get five guys that we think are tradable players.
But with that, what I'll say about the trade deadline is if you're a Toronto fan or if you're a Vancouver fan or an Oiler fan, teams are almost kind of in the same realm. But I think Vancouver is more on the done side of doing things. Unless they go out and get Jake Gensel. If you're the leafs, you're looking at a top nine forward centerman, third line centerman, I think is what you're looking at.
[00:31:34] Speaker B: No, you need a second line winger for sure.
Yeah, you need somebody who can score. They only have four guys to score goals ever.
You need another guy.
[00:31:46] Speaker A: But the biggest thing that they need is a defenseman, and if they're smart and I don't know where you're going to make a trade for four players, not saying it's impossible, you're going to have to overpay. Don't even look at Calgary. I think that's a bad idea because Craig Conroy is going to be like, yeah, you're going to jack up the price, go to a team that, yes, will have a high price but might be a little bit more easy negotiating. St. Louis, I like that option. I don't know who Colton Perenco. I'm just. I'm not saying these are going to happen. There's players that can be moved to Toronto and I think this trade deadline is going to be a little bit active. But I think you're going to see trades that are leading up to the deadline. A lot of those happen opposed to just deadline day. So we'll talk about the trade deadline a lot here, here on the show. But I want to bring up players that I think are in the top five for trade bait in the NHL this season. And speaking of that, teams that should be targeted, well, you got the bottom teams, but Calgary is a very popular team. Of course they've already sold Linholm and of course already sold Zidorov, but Hanifin and Tanev and Markstrom seem like they're going to be the next ones to go. But I'll give my top five that I think, and they're not in the same order. Okay. I'm going to make sure I tell everyone they're not in this particular order. But my one that I had listed, Chris Tanev, Noah Hanifin, those are the two guys. Absolutely. Vladimir Teresenko was one on my trade bait board list that I feel like is going to get moved. Jacob Markstrom is the fourth, so you got three out of four flames be mentioned right off the hop. And number five, it might be a little bit of a surprise, but I'm going to throw Anthony Duclaire at number five as a for sure guy getting moved. I feel like in the change of scenery he was doing well in Florida. I think it could be a good asset to a team looking for a top nine guy and not saying Toronto, but there's some room there. Other notables that have been on the Trey Bay boards are Sean Walker, Jake Chickrin, Scott Lawton, sorry, Jake Gensel. Guys like chickrin and so I don't really see them getting moved unless it's a sizable move. Gensel is not just a first round pick he might even be a first 2 seconds, a high prospect and an NHL ready guy. Maybe that's a little too high, but there's a guy who's had proven success. Chicken. Look at that salary. Look at where Ottawa is. You get rid of chicken. $4 million a year and some change. You're paying for chickrin this year, for the rest of this year and next year you're paying a pretty penny to bring him in. So that's why. Those are my five guys that have an eye on par. Do you have five guys that you're sticking out for the deadline this year?
[00:34:19] Speaker B: No. I didn't know this was a segment I needed to prepare for. If you wrote it down, I completely missed it.
I want to touch on the fact that you think Jakub Markstrom is going to get traded. How and why would the Calgary Flames trade a number one goaltender like bona fide who just had a little bit of a rocky start?
[00:34:36] Speaker A: New Jersey is where I think it's going to go. New Jersey needs a goalie. They have young assets like Vanichek that they can move, or, uh, they have.
[00:34:45] Speaker B: Something that's been good this last little stretch.
[00:34:49] Speaker A: They've, they've had a stretch, but I think they've bought into their, because of their selling and everything that they're moving and expiring contracts. They got to be smart about their future. They've already invested a lot of money into Hubert, though, and into cadre. Markstrom going to New Jersey for Vancheck going the other way, a pick and a player. I feel like that would be good.
[00:35:10] Speaker B: Then you got, and they're three points out of a playoff spot. I mean, even if they miss this year, you think you're going to have somebody to replace Yaka Markstrom next year? No.
[00:35:19] Speaker A: You don't think Dan Vidar is good enough? Dan Vidar is a good goaltender.
[00:35:23] Speaker B: I think I would rather Markstrom, I think he has more of a track record and more of a proven stature.
[00:35:30] Speaker A: Sure. But is that a team that's going to be successful this year? And is Markstrom actually going to come?
[00:35:33] Speaker B: Who cares about this?
[00:35:35] Speaker A: Oh, his contract is up next year.
[00:35:38] Speaker B: Oh, so like this year and then it's done.
[00:35:42] Speaker A: He's a UFA in 26.
[00:35:43] Speaker B: Oh, no, I would absolutely not trade him then. No, because you retool a little bit. You see the glimmer of hope.
Something's cooking here. Maybe we didn't start off right, but now we got something moving and we traded our starting goaltender.
[00:35:57] Speaker A: Here's the thing, too. Has a little bit of a hindrary background and he's 34 years old. You keeping him till 37 at that mount six?
[00:36:06] Speaker B: Yeah, probably.
[00:36:09] Speaker A: I think New Jersey is at a position in their standings where they feel that they shouldn't be. And I agree. I know they've had injury issues, especially with Jack Hughes this year. I would know.
The point is the goaltending has been a little bit suspect, but they have goaltending where they've been proven in the NHL before. Schmidt had a good run last year. Vanachek is another guy that could be moved going back the other way where Calgary can have a goaltender still that can put on and give them a chance to win games. And New Jersey gets a goaltender who is better than what they got. And Calgary can bring in some prospects and pieces to an organization that's looking to really top up on getting picks and prospects because Hanev is not coming back. Hanifin not coming back. These are guys that are expiring this year and you're either going to invest in it this year to try to make it get a wild card spot. You don't get that wild card spot and you miss out on losing guys you get nothing for. I'm a big fan of asset management.
I may be taking that from a lease GM perspective in the past, but I'm a big fan of asset management. I think that if, you know, guys aren't returning, you know that. All right, I'm on the outside looking in for a playoff spot. I'm in a tough conference this year. Am I really going to be better than Vegas? Am I really going to be better than the Edmonton Oilers? If you would have told me that in October when Oilers were two and 13 or whatever the heck they were, crazy. What a turnaround. Two and ten, whatever they were. But if you look at the west this year, it's very tough and competitive, and I feel like Calgary is not up to that and they have players that could be and I think they should capitalize and that's why I think they wouldn't train moving Markstrom because they are moving other pieces. I feel like they're not done selling and they're going to be a team that's going to stock up on picks, prospects going to the summer and look at signing some guys to fill out the roster for guys they already have. Mackenzie Uyghur great year for Mackenzie Uyghur leads the NHL on defense in goals. He has more goals than Caleb McCarr does this year. People probably don't know that point. There's Huberto, who's been a disaster train since he's been traded there, right? Cadre. $7 million a year for Nazim Cadre. I miss Cadre, but I don't think he's a $7 million guy. And I say I miss him because Toronto fan here speaking to you.
[00:38:25] Speaker B: Right.
[00:38:26] Speaker A: And there's not a lot of near 30, 40, 50 goal scorers that are making $5 million on a team that you can bring in. Right. As Dane would chirp west with Zach Hyman. Right. There's teams have certain pieces. Calgary has certain pieces that are attractive to teams and I think Calgary is not good enough even to make the playoffs. They're going to get swept first round. I don't think they're good enough.
[00:38:47] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, they're not good enough this year, but a little retool with your number one goalie. Yeah, maybe, I don't know. Vegas does it right. They just say fuck all the players. We don't care about anybody and this is a business. We'll get the hell out of here. And it works for so well.
[00:39:02] Speaker A: I put you on the spot with that then?
[00:39:04] Speaker B: No, not really. I missed it in the agenda. I went back and looked. I missed it. That's not me. That's on me.
[00:39:09] Speaker A: So give me one player.
[00:39:12] Speaker B: I think it's going to get traded.
You said, eh, yeah, I think that guy's gone. And I also think chickrin is gone for sure.
[00:39:21] Speaker A: Okay, so you're in the Ottawa realm.
Why would it be wise, and I'm not disagreeing with you because I don't think it's been working out either. But he's making 4.6 million. He has the rest of this year and he has next year. You have a year and a half with chickrid, right? I think if I'm Ottawa, do you make that trade?
[00:39:41] Speaker B: Yeah, but I only make it because it seems like the rumor mill has been that he's asked to be traded. And when you're a bad franchise, you can't also be known for being assholes or nobody's going to want to come there at all. You're in Canada, you don't do what your players ask of you and you're bad. Well, I think I'll just go sign in Dallas or Florida instead then. So I feel like they're just going to do it because their backs against the wall, what leverage do they have? I mean, great asset. You're going to get a lot for him, but you're only making that trade because he wants out I would love.
[00:40:13] Speaker A: For Toronto to get checked.
[00:40:15] Speaker B: That's not going to fucking happen. Keep dreaming.
[00:40:18] Speaker A: It's not going to happen at all.
[00:40:19] Speaker B: We need Cody Cece back.
[00:40:22] Speaker A: If you're a Toronto fan, I'm telling you right now, Sean Walker might be something that you're looking at. Okay? There could be like, a Nick sealer was a name that was floating around.
If you got to ask who that is, don't worry about it. Or dare I say, oh, God. I was going to say Tony D'Angelo, but no, Tyson Berry, man. Like, those are the only guys that are floating around right now that you're like, oh, well, we got to bring in some pieces here.
What pieces are we bringing in? If you're looking for a defense, your top two or ten of Hannifin Sean Walker is really good, but after that, you're dropping off a little bit. So if you're looking in the market for a defenseman, you might have to go off the board. And I know the Leaf scouts were, as per Elliot Friedman, were watching St. Louis in Montreal, and they killed Montreal that game, seven two. But Pranko Justin Falk, if you're making trades for those guys, those are chicken level trades almost. They're older, right? It's a little bit different, but they're still pretty close in talent where I'm a fan of Colton Perenco. That's why I say that you're giving up at least a first and a prospect. That's the start of the discussion, especially if you're a team looking for a defenseman. I feel that if I was a fan of Toronto. Let me give you an example. Or even the Oilers, same thing. If you're an Oiler fan, you're a Leaf fan. Even though Winnipeg doesn't need defense, they're great on defense. So if you're an Oiler and Leaf fan and even a Detroit fan, listen up. Jacob Middleton, Sean Walker, Nick Sealer, are your guys to look for or look for the draft?
[00:42:00] Speaker B: And don't trade any assets and just deal with what you got, because why would you keep throwing shit in a meal you already ruined?
[00:42:06] Speaker A: Thank you, Alex, for that point. Now, par, I want to bring up one thing about hockey before we go to the redraft. Then we're going to close out the show.
[00:42:17] Speaker B: Remember I told you before we started, you had this down for 20 to 30 minutes. I said 45 minutes minimum. We're at 41. I bet you we don't get out before an hour.
[00:42:26] Speaker A: We're getting out before an hour.
Certainly got to keep it 1000 here. So Rick talkt and this transitions nicely into our redraft. Rick Talkt was drafted in 1983 NHL draft and he had a very good NHL career. Okay. This is somebody who, when he was in the National Hockey League, he spent a few seasons with the Suse Marie Greyhounds. This is somebody who had. I had his stats up here to give you an exact one par, if you can jump in on this. But I tried to pull up his stats while I sit here. Thank you very much. He had 1144 games, 440 goals, 512 assists, 952 points, just 48 points shy of 1000. Just under 3000 penalty minutes as well. This is a guy who played a lot of games in the National Hockey League and he played with the Flyers, Bruins, Capitals, Coyotes. But he spent three years with the Susan Marie grounds just getting about almost 200 points or about 200 points with these two grounds. Good two way guy. He had a very good playoffs one year where he had 22 goals and 14 assists for 36 points.
[00:43:38] Speaker B: That good.
[00:43:41] Speaker A: This is a guy who went 6th round to the Philadelphia Flyers. He's the coach right now in Vancouver. He's had a good career in the NHL par. What's one thing that he doesn't have that isn't recognized in the sue?
[00:43:54] Speaker B: It's one thing that he has that isn't recognized in the SUe.
[00:43:59] Speaker A: One thing that isn't being recognized in the sue.
[00:44:02] Speaker B: Oh, I got you. You're setting me up. I got you. His number is not retired by his junior team.
[00:44:10] Speaker A: His number is not retired by the Sue Samurie Greyhounds. And this is a guy who's played three years. The Sue Samurie Greyhounds had very good career with the Greyhounds. Had a very good NHL career.
There's a list of people that should be up in that rafter.
[00:44:25] Speaker B: Give me another. Give me another.
[00:44:29] Speaker A: Jeff Carter.
[00:44:30] Speaker B: He's still playing. He's still playing. You think Jeff Carter is going to.
[00:44:34] Speaker A: Get retired his number? I feel like it. Should I almost dare him. Call me crazy. I think Tyler Kennedy's number should get retired with the Greyhounds. There's a guy who didn't have a long NHL career, but he's won a cup. He was dedicated to the soil here in Marie.
I think there's another guy that I would give the banner up to as well.
[00:44:56] Speaker B: Yeah, I'd give it to Jeff Carter first. The Greyhounds retired numbers are very prestigious. Those are the cream of the crop of the players that have played for the Greyhounds. I don't think Tyler Kennedy gets that great player.
[00:45:07] Speaker A: Well, Rick talkt should be yeah, sure.
[00:45:10] Speaker B: I agree 100%. And Jeff Carter, I think Jeff Carter, when his career is done, deserves it as well.
[00:45:15] Speaker A: 100%. Alex. 1983. All right, we're going to go in our DeLorean. We're going to go in our DeLorean. We're going to have our 1980s gear on, and we're going to be the GM of five NHL teams. We've been hired and we're able to shape shift. We're able to be the gms of these teams and we're going to make the picks for them knowing what we know in the future. The 1983 NHL draft, redrafting the top five players. Par.
[00:45:44] Speaker B: No, you go first. I went first the last couple of times.
[00:45:48] Speaker A: Generous.
I will go first and I am going to go from first to fifth. That's my routine. I know par likes to go the other direction, so I'm going to stick in this direction. With the first overall pick, the Minnesota North Stars are proud to select Steve Eiserman.
[00:46:03] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:46:04] Speaker A: With the second overall pick, the Hartford Whalers are proud to select the dominator, Dom Hasik. With the third overall pick, the New York Islanders are proud to select Pat Lafontaine.
With the fourth overall pick, the Detroit Red Wings are proud to select goaltender Tom Brass.
With the fifth overall pick, the Buffalo Sabres are proud to select from the Marie Greyhounds. Rick talkin love it.
[00:46:33] Speaker B: Love it. Ours are different, I will tell you that much.
Love it. Going to go five to one here. Reverse order.
Number five, Bob prover. Are you kidding me? Get some love for another Sue Greyhound player. Get that guy to beat the fucking piss out of whoever shows up. Hell yeah. Rest in peace to a legend. Number four, keeping it same team. Rick pocket. Easy. We've already went off enough about him and how great he is. Number three is the same player. Pat Lafontaine. Usually I'm a big guy on longevity. He only played 865 games, but he had over 1000 points with 1013. So quite the career there. Now guys are in number two.
Hear me out.
[00:47:22] Speaker A: I got to leave.
[00:47:23] Speaker B: Hear me out. I'm going to need you to sit down.
When you think about the best centers that have ever played in the NHL, how many names are you saying before you get to Steve Eiserman? Or once you get to Steve Eiserman, how many people are you like? Well, it could be either this guy or it could be Steve or a number of them, right?
[00:47:44] Speaker A: I think Stevie is a top ten league of all time. If not, he's flirting with not top five, but he's top ten.
[00:47:52] Speaker B: Dom Hasik is no doubt, no argument, top five, probably top three goalie of all time.
[00:48:00] Speaker A: So is he number one?
[00:48:01] Speaker B: Easy? Yeah. You're saying a lot more names of centers before you get to Steve Eiserman than you are saying goalies before you get to Dominic Kasich.
[00:48:11] Speaker A: Oh, that's going to cause some it. I want it.
[00:48:16] Speaker B: The only interaction that should be is oh yeah, that's true. Dom Hasek is a better goalie than Steve Eiserman is a center.
[00:48:24] Speaker A: So if this happened the way that it did, so you'd have Minnesota getting Hask and Eiserman going to Hartford. Imagine how the NHL would shape out after this.
I love doing this segment. I know, know we get good numbers with it. The viewers are great, the likes are great with it. But we have fun doing this segment. I want people to know that. I think it's so cool.
But then just visioning the what if factor of it. Imagine Steve Eiserman was wherever Minnesota, Hartford, wherever he was. If you go back to last to the other drafts that we can, what we'll do is we're going to create an overall roster of picks that what we had. Maybe we'll figure out something for the listeners. But there was an opportunity there where obviously I had Ron Francis going first in the previous draft so he wouldn't have really played Harper with Eiserman, but how the NHL would have been shaped out would have been.
[00:49:22] Speaker B: So the domino effect, the butterfly effect would be too much to read into.
[00:49:29] Speaker A: That's what people should do in video games. That's what they should do is like you can go start the GM mode. I think NBA actually does that in two k, but NHL should do that where you can be a GM.
[00:49:42] Speaker B: 1970 yeah, you can do that in NHL. You can download rosters from different years and bring them over.
[00:49:51] Speaker A: That's so cool. And bring them in a different team. That's so cool. That's so fun. That is our 1983 NHL redraft comment below on what you think if we're right, we're wrong or whatnot. Now par I'm looking at our agenda that we normally try to follow to a t, but it is a little bit over.
[00:50:13] Speaker B: That's everything now.
[00:50:14] Speaker A: It is. But I wanted to give you 1 minute about the WWE for a minute. We love finding ways to get the WWE in here the past month because I'm invested back. I'm back into it because the rocks there people are back in. They got me. They got me into.
[00:50:29] Speaker B: It's so funny because I know people like you who grew up with the attitude area that are like, oh, the rock's back. Hell, yeah, I'm pumped. I'm it. And then I know people that are like, fuck you, rock. You're ruining Cody's story.
I've been on record many times to say I do not care about Cody Rhodes as much as most people. I think the story was too force fed and too manufactured, too cookie cutter, too easy. But then they brought the rock in, and everyone goes, oh, Cody's missing his shot. And I thought, well, hey, I don't want to see this guy get screwed at the same time. I mean, we may as well finish this story. That was the first time I felt a little empathy towards Cody, and they did a little weird storytelling. But Cody has now said, yes, it is going to be me against Roman, and the rock's still there, and he's around, so they haven't really decided what they're going to do yet.
It's up in the air. It's cool. I don't triple threat. It would be great. I would love that. I would love that. Roman. Yeah. Roman's got help from his family for real. And Cody's up against the odds, and he does it against both of them. Cool. Great story.
Are you going to watch regardless of what rock does, regardless of the match?
[00:51:39] Speaker A: Yeah, for sure.
[00:51:40] Speaker B: What are you hoping?
[00:51:46] Speaker A: Like, that's why part of me was like, I wonder if they flip because they flipped the script a lot, because triple H saw this backlash online. I wonder if that was always a part of the script.
[00:51:56] Speaker B: I think this must have been. I don't think he's stupid enough to ruin the story that they've been working on for two years.
[00:52:02] Speaker A: So obviously, all this was already planned. That's where I was kind of skeptical, like, is this real? Then the rock does a good job acting, man. He does a good job that we're.
[00:52:13] Speaker B: Talking about how we don't know. It's, like, the whole point. And that's how, you know, they're telling a good story, because they're blurring the lines between what's real and what isn't. Right.
[00:52:23] Speaker A: There's SummerSlam in between.
[00:52:25] Speaker B: No, there's elimination chamber. Yeah. And then wrestlemania.
[00:52:29] Speaker A: That's right. Sorry. It's elimination chamber, not SummerSlam. So my prediction, I don't know what, but my prediction on the story is something's going to happen that will create a domino effect from elimination chamber. Something will happen there. If it's a match, if it involves the rock and somebody else. Roman, somebody else. Cody and the rock maybe are going to fight, make it a number one contenders match. I don't know. I'm throwing that out there. And then Roman reigns comes out and helps the rock beat Cody, right. So it sets that up. But then triple H isn't happy and tells the rock, gives him the old italian salute.
Because the rock's been mouthy to then, you know, then maybe it creates that triple threat match. But in between, maybe the rock fights triple H somehow. I know you said, no, that's crazy. Hunter might be done, but there might be something there. Bring back the attitude, people. Right? So there's going to be a few domino effects such as that that are going to lead to this. But in Wrestlemania, what I think is going to happen is that there'll be a triple threat match. That's what it's going to gear up to be. But there's going to be stories in between there that are going to interrupt and keep you distracted and keep you interested. But pump it up. I wish it was just Cody and Roman. I think that would have been great.
[00:53:47] Speaker B: We don't know.
[00:53:49] Speaker A: Yeah, we don't know. But I think the rock is back for a reason. And I think you're going to see him at WrestleMania. And if I'm wrong and he's not in that triple threat, he's going to be doing wrestlemania in some degree, involved in some sort of way. So that's my take part. Before we let you go, what's your take? What's your prediction?
[00:54:05] Speaker B: I hope it's roman rock. That's the match that I've wanted to see for an extremely long amount of time.
That's the bloodline story, right? So I think that'd be cool. That's what I'm hoping for.
Yeah. And I guess I'm kind of down for Cody just to win the belt. So this whole story can wrap up. Roman can fuck off for a little bit, take a nice long vacation. I do not want to see him.
And then all the fans will turn on Cody in, like, three months because nobody likes a baby face champion.
[00:54:36] Speaker A: Boom. You heard it here.
[00:54:37] Speaker B: Boom.
[00:54:39] Speaker A: Alex, thank you. You're right about the time. That's why we don't talk about the time on the air. But we had a lot to get into. We put a lot of time towards Toronto a little bit. But it was good. We had a good time. Obviously, we had breaking news with Morgan Riley's suspension. People were probably hearing us in the first 20 minutes of show because prerecorded. These guys have no idea what's coming. They have no idea what's coming. I promise you. Par, just so you know, it's now 713. If you do the math when we were doing this. I can't make that up top of my head. If you do the math, we're at 53 minutes and 47 seconds of recording right now. So do the math of when we were doing the time. We're being honest with you. It's pre recorded. We did not know. Now we know about Morgan Riley's suspension and the Leafs are in trouble.
But we had a lot of chatter about the lease.
If Dane was here, we would have went into more of that Olympic chat. But we're in next show. We're going to have bit more of that Olympics chat rosters with trade deadline stuff and more news just outside of Toronto that I can assure you. Okay, but we talked a little WWE. We did our redraft. Make sure you comment your love, your dislike, whatever below towards us. We love the interaction. But part I was going to put you on the spot on one thing before I let you go. You have no idea this is coming because I am in a start this on shows. It's called the what if or the what if. I am thinking of Marvel. Would you rather segment. It's called the would you rather play one on one basketball against LeBron James.
[00:56:06] Speaker B: Or whatever this option is.
[00:56:09] Speaker A: One on one matchup in tennis against Serena Williams.
Who do you think you'll have the best chance against to beat?
[00:56:20] Speaker B: I don't have a chance against either one of them. I don't think I have.
[00:56:23] Speaker A: You got to make the prediction.
It's on the line. Who are you going to challenge one on one? LeBron or Serene?
[00:56:30] Speaker B: I think if I was on a basketball court alone, completely by myself, I'd have a better chance at putting the ball in the net than I would on an empty tennis court and keeping it in play with a half decent shot. So just based on that alone and not who I'm going up against, I'm going to pick basketball on the chance that maybe LeBron's tying a shoe and maybe I can just throw it up over him.
[00:56:53] Speaker A: Love that. The would you rather segment coming. More of these questions are coming soon on this segment as well, and they'll be great for clips. My choice is LeBron. All day. I just want to go against LeBron.
[00:57:04] Speaker B: I just want to talk to him about Fortnite.
[00:57:05] Speaker A: Serena would take me. I wouldn't have a chance, man. I feel like I have a better chance against LeBron than serena. I'm not going to lie to you. I have no chance. Serena Williams, I would just bow to her and be like, not a chance.
[00:57:18] Speaker B: One of the scariest things I've ever seen on television was it slowed down and showed Serena williams, like celebrating, like fist pumping, like, yeah, bitch. Like, she's like screaming. That image just burned into my head. That scared me. I was like, I will never be that intense regarding anything ever.
[00:57:33] Speaker A: She might be one of, if not one of the best athletes of all.
[00:57:36] Speaker B: Yeah. Easy.
Undertaker, undertaker, Joey Chestnut, Serena Williams, Michael Jordan, Joey Chestnut.
[00:57:47] Speaker A: Do you think you can beat him in hot dogging content? Maybe that's the next. Would you rather. The next, would you rather.
[00:57:51] Speaker B: I'll beat him. All right.
[00:57:53] Speaker A: Oh, God, parf. Thank you, my friend. We're going to take a break. When we come back, we got in the pocket, the last in the pocket of the season. Wow. Time flies by. What are we going to do with our agenda? Well, that's up to me and us to decide because it's a hole to fill for sure, but we will fill it. Look what par and I did it in an hour. Lots of sports we can talk about here, Parr. Thanks, my friend.
Obviously, it's been Alex Parr. He is, of course, longtime member of the game sports podcast. And, well, he's the man. He's the man myth, legend. He's a part of producing shows. He can do very good editing clips. That's all. I'll leave it. I think that clip you did was.
[00:58:31] Speaker B: A. Oh, you like that?
[00:58:34] Speaker A: So funny. Great job.
[00:58:35] Speaker B: Thank you.
[00:58:37] Speaker A: And the game sports podcast, powered by 91 n is going to take a quick breather. I'm have a sip of my beverage, my per show beverage before we kick off in the pocket. Don't go anywhere. And welcome back to the Game sports podcast. Dave McKay continuing to host you this evening on the game sports podcast. Now I'm joined by the usual crew here on the in the pocket segment. The season finale of the in the pocket segment, the one and only EJ Russell and Justin heichel. I'm going to go all the way first to escanaba, Michigan. The one, the only, as I said. EJ Russell joining us here on in the pocket. EJ, my friend, how's it going?
[00:59:12] Speaker D: Yo? And I told somebody I'd say this today, sports be sports.
That's a little shout out to a local listener here, but yeah, happy to be here. As always, I have a slightly lesser content beverage today as last week's file was corrupted for who knows what reasons, but definitely not my own. It's definitely Dave's fault, but happy to be here. And I'm just saying I'm not wearing a hat today because I'm ready for a picture. The crown.
[00:59:48] Speaker A: Oh, the crown. I was going the month.
[00:59:52] Speaker D: Those that know no, but I'm ready for.
[00:59:56] Speaker A: Well, we're saving that for the end now, unfortunately, I think people are going to get the hint. If you're in the pocket, loyal follower, if you're new, you'll find out soon. The one only EJ has another crown coming his way. Maybe that's what we'll send him, is a crown. Justin Heichel, my friend, season finale. You know what that means when football's done? That means he's going to start coming back onto other podcast shows.
[01:00:20] Speaker D: Didn't say podcast shows, Dave.
[01:00:22] Speaker A: Not saying it.
[01:00:23] Speaker D: What kind of podcast shows?
[01:00:24] Speaker A: Other segments. Sorry, I shouldn't say podcast shows. Segments. Fair.
[01:00:27] Speaker B: Fair.
[01:00:28] Speaker D: That's your bailout.
[01:00:29] Speaker C: Yeah. Everyone comes to me for my wealth of basketball knowledge, so that's what I'm here for.
[01:00:35] Speaker A: Story of all time.
[01:00:38] Speaker C: That's what I got.
[01:00:39] Speaker D: By the way, I will say this. Hike. Let me interrupt. My march madness brackets are coming up. You guys want in?
[01:00:45] Speaker A: Boo.
Yes, probably.
[01:00:48] Speaker D: Yes, probably. Booing. Dave, we're talking about basketball.
[01:00:54] Speaker A: I'm not saying the other madness brackets.
[01:00:56] Speaker B: You guys are in.
[01:00:57] Speaker D: We're talking about gambling. We're not being perverts.
[01:00:59] Speaker A: Yes, I'm in on March Madness. I love March Madness. Go Duke. Go blue devils. Justin, though, sorry. Back to you. See the finale of in the pocket. You've been here since day. Know the in the pocket segment has been going strong over six years. We're going to be hitting seven.
[01:01:17] Speaker C: Yeah, it's kind of a bummer when we get to this.
Yeah, everyone's had fun. It's been a great year.
We're like the narcos meme now. What the hell do we do on Sundays?
Stand around in our house, look at.
[01:01:30] Speaker D: Stuff USL and XFL emerged.
[01:01:34] Speaker C: Yeah, that did happen. And I mean, the elimination chambers next weekend so I can get hard into wrestling again.
[01:01:43] Speaker A: WWE is something we've been talking about a lot here on the show.
[01:01:48] Speaker D: Couldn't be more, yo, this is going.
[01:01:51] Speaker C: To be a juicy one. I'm all for that. And I mean, I'm real happy that our truth is back, to be honest. That's big. Our truth guy right here.
[01:02:02] Speaker D: He'S in judgment day, right?
[01:02:04] Speaker C: Well, I don't know. I said last night.
[01:02:07] Speaker D: His shirt says so.
[01:02:09] Speaker C: Pretty definitive. No, last night. But I would like to get one of those shirts.
[01:02:13] Speaker A: I am pretty excited to see what comes after this finale. But that's not reminding listeners though, that there's always football.
[01:02:20] Speaker D: Just so you're aware. Speaking of other content, I believe this is true. Our truth is the most decorated WWE championship or champion of all time. Because of how many times he's won the 24/7 championship, I think he's won more titles than anybody else. Greatest WWE champion of all time.
[01:02:38] Speaker C: I think gronk, to be honest, was the last person to hold the or one of the last people to hold the 24/7 title. He had to relinquish it to unretire.
[01:02:47] Speaker A: Oh, Grog, who missed again on his kick, should have bet.
[01:02:53] Speaker D: Yeah.
Can we talk about that for 1 second?
[01:02:57] Speaker A: Okay. Yeah, I'll say. Quick. This is in the block again segment. This segment is actually sponsored by sports center bar and Grill, Sissima, Ontario's best sports bar over six years in a row. Best wings. This is where everything is. Football. Don't get confused with our introduction. We are having fun opening the show. It's the finale. If you know the show, you know it. We will get into our pure Super bowl reaction and football content. Now, I've gave a shout out to our particular sponsor of this segment. Justin, take the floor. Talk about it with Grox. Not making that the all the like.
[01:03:31] Speaker C: There's a lot of promotion that went into that.
[01:03:33] Speaker D: And then.
[01:03:35] Speaker C: Come on. Carl weathers in commercials.
[01:03:39] Speaker D: Rest in peace, first of all, rest in peace, Carl Weathers. Thank you. But then you cut to the actual.
[01:03:45] Speaker C: Kick and you're doing it in the parking lot of a fucking hardee's somewhere. Come like for production value. You couldn't have found something a little better in Vegas to do the kick anything.
[01:03:55] Speaker A: Or the field? On the field.
[01:03:57] Speaker D: Have you ever had a Hardee's fresco burger? They're pretty solid.
[01:04:00] Speaker A: Never had.
[01:04:01] Speaker D: I honestly don't think neither have I. Just thought it'd be a good joke. You guys ruined it.
[01:04:05] Speaker C: I haven't had hardees in 25 years.
[01:04:07] Speaker D: Since the one in Michigan closed. Last time I had Hardee's was actually. I will admit this, they have a decent, like, sausage gravy and biscuits. Breakfast with some potato.
Solid.
[01:04:19] Speaker A: Solid. Yeah.
[01:04:19] Speaker C: Delightful.
[01:04:21] Speaker D: Good peppering.
[01:04:22] Speaker A: I think it's.
People think and I'm wrong.
I feel like that kick, like. Are you serious? He can't kick that.
[01:04:32] Speaker D: Gronkowski can barely put a sentence together.
I'm not saying he's stupid, but he does sound stupid. He is not a great linguist. Right. He can't put together words the way that hike, you or I can. Right. But you can put him on tv and he can say something smart that sounds stupid and everybody goes, gronk, if he misses that kick, all of you are like, well, he's not a kicker, but he's still funny.
[01:05:03] Speaker A: But is there to think that's scripted a little bit?
[01:05:07] Speaker D: No.
[01:05:08] Speaker A: Professional?
[01:05:09] Speaker D: No, I think he can't hit those kicks.
[01:05:12] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:05:12] Speaker D: Jake Moody.
[01:05:14] Speaker A: Yeah, it's okay. Well, Gronk missed his kick. If you missed it, and there was a lot of things at the field goal yet. No, at the Super bowl that we can discuss. And just to give a quick little recap, if you've, well, missed it, the Chiefs have won the Super bowl, of course, battling back in that game, the 49 ers obviously couldn't keep up with the goat. I'm giving him the goat status already.
He's not Tom Brady Goat, but he's going to be freaking close, if not more. But like he said, he never beat Tom Brady in the Super bowl.
[01:05:48] Speaker D: That's a very relevant.
[01:05:49] Speaker A: Yeah, and Mr. Purdy. Mr. Irrelevant is the nickname. That's a funny little segue to there. But the 49 ers, they lost that football game on a game they had the opportunity to win. But I have to give credit to the defenses all around. I was worried that's going to keep being a low scoring game, but it was good, even though it was low scoring to kick off the first half and it was kind of more defensive sounded and minded in general is probably what I should say.
It was entertaining to watch because the defense was just fantastic to watch. Mahomes, you just knew. You just freaking knew, man. The fourth quarter in overtime, you knew this guy was just going to show up. That is what Mahomes does. And all you conspiracy theorists out there think this was scripted to win the Super bowl. It wasn't. The only thing I think was scripted was Gronkowski, and I already said that. Then I'm probably wrong.
Mahomes, you can't freaking write that. I didn't swear. You can't freaking write that. That is just pure talent. That is somebody who is darn good at his position. And if he isn't a quarterback of yours, you're going to hate him. But if you have him on the Chiefs, you're going to love him. But if you love the game of football, you respect what he does because when he's on the field, he makes anything happen.
[01:07:03] Speaker D: I would just like to say this right now. I respect my wife because I think when I picked up Macy before the podcast. I think she just took a big old shit right around the stool and. Britt, Britt, come here. Will you come here for a second, please? She just, on her hands and knees to not be in the shot, crawled and picked it up. Can we give Britt a round of applause, please?
[01:07:24] Speaker A: I'll give her a round of applause.
[01:07:25] Speaker D: Thank you. Thank you so much.
I think that's also bad on me because one of the dogs definitely just pooped in the house while I was here. So I'm in trouble. But Patrick Mahomes is certainly getting close to goat mean. He's playing great football. I mean, he's about as great as Brittany is picking up that dog poop.
[01:07:45] Speaker A: That's talent. Now, Mahomes.
[01:07:47] Speaker D: Thank you, honey. I'm so sorry.
[01:07:49] Speaker A: And with Mahomes and the offense on both sides, I feel like when you watch that first drive with McCaffrey, right, you see McCaffrey, he just looked like he was going to turn it on the entire game. He was great the whole football game. But the Chiefs defense, despite some careless penalties resulting when you could have had a fourth down, they get a first down out of it. I think both sides made plays that could have been avoidable. And if you thought the Niners were going to win this game easily when you were watching that game, you don't know Patrick Mahomes. You don't know Mahomes. You don't know the man. It's. It is so amazing to be able to watch. And I had the luxury as a Steeler fan to watch an elite quarterback. And Ben Roethlisberger, who was able to be clutch in moments. Justin, you saw manning like you're able to see that as a Colts fan. EJ, I won't give you any option really yet, but it's coming.
Yeah. This Joe Flacco. Yeah. So it's amazing, though, what you can do with a quarterback that can get the job done for you, man. And not only can Mahomes get the job done for you, he is literally the best quarterback in the NFL. If there was any question to who is the best quarterback? There's your answer. He stepped up right there. The entirety. EJ, I want to go to you first for your points that you want to bring up about the Super bowl. Before I go over to Justin and we'll feed off each other with that.
[01:09:18] Speaker D: My first reaction is that my wife just let the dogs out and Dixie pooped. So it was definitely macy that pooped inside.
Again. All the credit in the world. Brittany I love you.
All right. The Dogs are doing their thing, but no, this Super Bowl, I will say, was one in the most uneventful of ways. This was one of the more non cinematic is the way I'm going to say it. Super Bowls in history, right? Like, remember the Steelers, Cardinals. Santana homes the toe tap?
[01:09:51] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:09:52] Speaker D: The Falcons against the Patriots. Julian Edelman catching that ball, barely off the Rams, you know, reaching out to the 1 yd line, Dyson, and just missing this Super bowl didn't give you a true Super bowl moment until the game was won. And one of the things that I heard early out of the world of San Francisco, I don't want to say fans, I don't want to say the team, just the world of San Francisco, was that they weren't aware of what the rules were in overtime.
Now, I'm going to give one of you guys a second here to look this up while I bring it up what the overtime rules are for the Super bowl, and one of you guys, please look it up and pull it up and read it for us. But if you don't know what the rules are in overtime of the Super bowl, do you really deserve to win the trophy? Because being a Super bowl champion is about being one of the most prepared teams and having the right game plan. And if you don't know the rules, I'm sorry. You deserve to lose the Super bowl. There's a reason that San Francisco has lost the last three Super Bowls that they've been in, and all three have been relatively recently. And I'm not saying it's because they're doing anything wrong.
I just don't think they're doing the things right to be a champion.
[01:11:14] Speaker A: Well, Justin, I'll give you the first reaction to that. And in the Super bowl rules, in overtime, obviously, both teams got to get possession.
It's something that when you're in the game, you got to know, and if you don't know it, if you don't know the specifics and the changes, what are you doing?
This is stuff you got to know. It's your sport. It's the sport you love playing, and that is something that they drop the ball on, per se.
[01:11:43] Speaker C: Yeah, I don't know.
I don't like that narrative. I mean, I get it. If you don't know the rules.
[01:11:56] Speaker D: Shame on you.
[01:11:58] Speaker C: To me, it just seems. Is it plausible? 100%. It just seems like such a silly.
[01:12:04] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:12:04] Speaker D: If you're a professional coach, you should know the rules.
[01:12:06] Speaker C: Yeah. Why would you even say it? Come up with a better yeah, you just lost. We lost. We got out gamed.
I got out coached.
Don't say I didn't know the fucking rules.
[01:12:21] Speaker D: How does that help? I thought both teams played sloppy.
[01:12:25] Speaker C: It wasn't a spectacular. To me, it kind of looked like they were playing a Super bowl in Vegas. I don't know how else to say that.
[01:12:33] Speaker D: More excited to be in Vegas than playing the game. I heard one of the guys on the Niners was hungover.
[01:12:39] Speaker A: Well, let me give you a couple of the rules, like I said. So you got. Both teams got to get possession in the overtime. Each team will have the opportunity to possess the football. Essentially. A good way to put it. Each team gets three time outs during the half. The same timing rules that apply at the end of the second and fourth regulation quarters also apply at the second. Yeah.
[01:12:57] Speaker D: It's a 15 minutes quarter, right?
[01:12:59] Speaker A: Exactly. If they're still winning at the end of the fourth overtime quarter, there will be another coin toss and play will continue till a winner is declared. If the score is still tied at the end of the overtime period is what the words that they use, quote unquote, or if the second team's initial possession has not ended, the teams will play another overtime period and will continue to play regardless. There is a two minute intermission. The team that lost the first overtime coin toss will either choose to possess or select the ball which way they'll defend, unless the team that won the coin toss deferred that choice. So there's multiple rules, but ultimately it is different in terms of, well, each team gets possession of that football. If the Niners score a touchdown, the Chiefs have an opportunity to score the touchdown. If the Niners get a field goal, but then the Chiefs get a field goal, we're tied. The play keeps going.
You got to understand those part of the rules. And if you get a touchdown. Touchdown. Touchdown. Touchdown. Touchdown. Touchdown. And you keep going, guess what? Possession continues to flip until somebody doesn't get that touchdown. And if the Niners get a field goal and the Chiefs get nothing, games over.
[01:14:20] Speaker C: Even if you were like that, unsure of the rules, you couldn't ask one of the reps.
It's the Super bowl. There's 17 extra linesmen out on the field like there's 500 game. You couldn't ask one of those guys that's getting paid a couple of hundred g's up in the press box as your coordinator. Hey, could someone google this?
[01:14:38] Speaker D: I think the big controversy when it comes to Niners fans is that the first score of overtime was the Jake Moody 27 yard field goal. And I think that they thought first score wins. And the sad part is after the lockout and what was those? Like 2018. 2019.
That's when they changed it to like, no. If you kick a field goal in the regular season, that doesn't win the game. It's not first score wins unless it's a touchdown.
If the Niners go down and score touchdown games over.
Now, I don't like the overtime system, but the Niners flubbed up. The Niners flubbed up. And did they not choose to receive the ball?
[01:15:20] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:15:20] Speaker C: Okay.
[01:15:21] Speaker D: Is that a mistake? Let's talk about that honestly.
[01:15:25] Speaker C: And we talked to a couple of guys.
[01:15:27] Speaker D: I'll say this. My budy asked me to bring this up. I said this wholeheartedly. I would have taken the ball. Absolutely. But your guys thoughts?
[01:15:34] Speaker C: I would have waited because the overtime rules allow you that opportunity to match to see what you're working with, see if they're going to come.
[01:15:43] Speaker D: Yeah, but you don't think if you're the Niners and all those offensive pieces you have, you had four or five players with over 1000 scrimmage yards this year. You don't think you would have taken the shot to score the first touchdown? I think I would have.
[01:15:55] Speaker A: No.
[01:15:55] Speaker C: Here's why, especially if I'm the chief, 100%. No, you take it. Let's see.
[01:16:02] Speaker A: Yeah, because Mahomes is very good under pressure, but he's better under clutch. And there's a difference. Mahomes is good under pressure, better under clutch, which means that if he needs to step up, he will. He has that pedigree. Brock Purdy will eventually get to that point. I think. I think he will win a Super bowl.
[01:16:21] Speaker D: Well, why are we saying he will? He is Mr. Irrelevant and just brought his team to the precipice of a Super bowl. Can we please admit now that Brock Purdy is legit? He's done this for two straight years.
[01:16:33] Speaker A: Yes, he's legit. 100%.
[01:16:36] Speaker C: He's done more than, I think he's.
[01:16:39] Speaker A: Done more than Kenny Pickett has.
[01:16:41] Speaker C: I'm throwing this off the cuff here, but I think he's done more than any other quarterback that was drafted in the first round of.
[01:16:51] Speaker A: Not. I am not taking that football first. I don't even care if I'm the Niners. You don't take that ball first because of what I mentioned about think.
[01:16:59] Speaker D: No, I think you do take the ball first there. Because if you can go down with the skill that that team has, I'm going to trust my offense to go down and score touchdown. Because now you're going to force Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid and Travis Kelsey and all those great pieces that they have to potentially make a decision that they're uncomfortable with because they have to go for it on fourth. I think it's not a bad call.
[01:17:23] Speaker A: Justin, when I look at football, and I'm not a coach in football, of course, obviously you've played 99 times out of 100.
[01:17:31] Speaker D: Dave, I'll agree with you, but in this instance, I don't.
[01:17:38] Speaker C: In regular time, I'm taking the ball. That's every time in this situation.
I'm honestly not. And my gut reaction is no, because I want to see what they're going to do.
But I mean, to EJ's point too, then you're playing from behind.
You've got the gun to your head.
[01:17:56] Speaker D: They know you have to get a touchdown.
[01:18:00] Speaker C: It's an interesting.
[01:18:01] Speaker D: Put the gun to their head before they put it to yours. It's like playing russian roulette, but knowing where the bullet is.
[01:18:06] Speaker C: And it's tricky because you're starting fresh. There's no momentum really. Right there. Right.
[01:18:12] Speaker A: That's a good point.
[01:18:14] Speaker C: It's a tricky one. I mean, honestly, you could debate this forever. I don't know that there's 49 ers fans. There's no right answer to it.
[01:18:20] Speaker D: I will wholeheartedly stand by. Take the ball first.
[01:18:23] Speaker A: There comment below what you think, what you would have done. Honestly, just because of Dave.
[01:18:29] Speaker D: Can we put a poll?
[01:18:31] Speaker A: Yeah, I think we should do a poll reaction.
[01:18:33] Speaker D: Put a poll on our TikTok page too. Go down the TikTok page.
[01:18:37] Speaker A: Who takes? Do you take or not take the ball? My answer. EJ's given his. Heiko's given his.
I'm giving the ball to Mahomes first because I feel like he's better under the clutch than under pressure.
[01:18:47] Speaker D: Now, can I ask you a question? Out of everyone on the podcast that's made decisions involving games this year, who's been most accurate?
[01:18:56] Speaker A: We're not going there yet, but I'm.
[01:18:59] Speaker D: Trying to give you the segue, budy.
[01:19:02] Speaker A: You know who wasn't a standout for me in the game was Pacheco. I feel like that entire game Pacheco was arguing was, I don't want to say crybaby mentality, but he wasn't running the ball effectively.
He had under 70 yards and 20 carries. Whatever it was.
[01:19:20] Speaker C: He got a couple of first downs when they needed to get first downs.
[01:19:23] Speaker D: Yeah, I'm with hike. I think he got big first downs. He wasn't an impact player on the score sheet, though.
[01:19:31] Speaker C: The Super bowl is a tricky one because it's a true test of a team, right? It's got to be. The team has to win. And it's not about Pacheco's stat line. I mean, it's not about Kelsey. No one went into it and said Marquez Valdez Scaling is going to be the Super bowl hero. I mean, there's probably a couple of guys who had him on the draft, kings that are pretty happy with the bank account right now, but the majority of us didn't say he's going to be the guy. He's the guy today. The guy that got cut from the jets or traded from the jets beginning of the year.
[01:20:05] Speaker D: I will say this. I'm not surprised that it's him, but I'm surprised that it is him. I think he has a ton of potential, but he screws up a lot. Like good for him. Congratulations. What a game.
[01:20:18] Speaker C: Buffalo. He had those drops. Was it that.
[01:20:22] Speaker A: Think. And it's unexpected play, too, right? You knew as soon as Patrick called that hut, he was not looking anywhere else but to him.
[01:20:29] Speaker C: You know what, though? I want to give Patrick.
[01:20:31] Speaker D: You're on a first name basis with the state farm agent now.
[01:20:33] Speaker A: Come on. Jesus.
[01:20:36] Speaker C: A shout out to Casey's offensive line because Mahomes was almost untouchable back there most of that second half of the game.
[01:20:46] Speaker D: Can we also give Chris Jones a little bit of love? I thought he played with a lot of passion that game.
He didn't end up on the score sheet a lot with tackles for losses or sacks or anything like that, but you could see he was making a big impact in that first half.
[01:21:01] Speaker A: On the other side was Bosa. When you see that guy, Bosa had.
[01:21:05] Speaker D: A nice game, too. I feel like they both had great first halfs, and then defensively, everything kind of quieted down in that second half. Nobody played good football in the second half.
[01:21:15] Speaker A: Just me. If I was a quarterback and I saw Bolsa chase me, I'd be fucking scared shitless, man.
[01:21:20] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:21:20] Speaker D: You know what the best part about that question is? Which one?
[01:21:23] Speaker A: Which one would you rather? You know what's funny? We started a segment on our previous segment called would you rather. And in that question we asked, would you rather play against LeBron James one on one or Serena Williams one on one? What would you rather do? LeBron James and everyone.
[01:21:37] Speaker C: Lebron.
[01:21:37] Speaker A: That was LeBron. Yeah.
[01:21:39] Speaker C: I think Serena would make an example of the fact that I was thinking it's a good idea to do that.
[01:21:44] Speaker D: LeBron can't play tennis. Serena Williams can play tennis. Yeah. What sport are we playing if we're playing, like, baseball? I'm still taking Serena.
[01:21:52] Speaker C: Like, if we're playing beard arts, I'm taking me over LeBron.
[01:21:57] Speaker A: Their own sports, basketball and tennis. So let me ask, would you rather get chased down by Jones? Well, it's different example, but let's just use that as an example. Jones or Bosa?
[01:22:12] Speaker D: Me.
[01:22:13] Speaker A: Yeah, Jones.
[01:22:14] Speaker D: You're going to see it coming. Bosa is going to hit you on the backside and you're never going to see him. Jones is coming right in your gut and you're just going to be like.
[01:22:23] Speaker A: Take Chris Jones all day, Mike, you can answer that.
[01:22:27] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm going to go with the Chris Jones one. Honestly, you can't prepare for it because you don't know where he's coming from.
[01:22:34] Speaker A: I would take both over TJ Watt. Not going to lie, as a Steeler fan, I've watched.
[01:22:39] Speaker D: Who was the defensive player of the year, by the way? Was it TJ Watt this year? Yeah, it was.
[01:22:45] Speaker A: Sure was.
[01:22:45] Speaker D: I thought it was Garrett.
[01:22:47] Speaker A: No, no. Come on now.
[01:22:50] Speaker D: Miles Garrett was the defensive player of the year. NFL coach of the year was Kevin Stefanski. Assistant coach of the year was Jim Schwartz, and comeback player of the year was Joe flacco. Clean sleep sweep for the Cleveland Browns at the NFL honors this year. Dave, don't you dare try to tell me I'm wrong.
[01:23:06] Speaker C: I was going to say I was pretty sure you're.
[01:23:10] Speaker A: Cross. Now, what the other were the other guys?
[01:23:14] Speaker D: So what you saw, what Dave, you probably saw was a lot of the memes that are coming out and people are like, oh, how is Miles Garrett the defensive player of the year? Because you go and you look at the stats, TJ watt did do better in every single statistical category. But look at Michael Parsons actually gave a good take on. Yeah, you saw this, Dave. He goes, he's the best player on the best defense, and he impacted plays that didn't count in statistics. Miles Garrett, defensive player of the year. If micah Parsons says that, you take it.
[01:23:43] Speaker C: Miles Garrett was a game changer out there. Absolutely. Every game, every play that he's on.
[01:23:48] Speaker A: The field he's doing, man, that's also another.
[01:23:51] Speaker D: He's the new Aaron Donald.
[01:23:53] Speaker A: Freak, man. Freak. All these guys. You can go back in time to erlacker. Even Dawkins in a safety, man, I love brian.
[01:24:01] Speaker D: Good pull with Brian Dawkins, dude. Dawkins come down to the box and just smack you.
[01:24:06] Speaker A: I was in the kitchen one time, my parents house and the tv was a little bit.
[01:24:09] Speaker D: He was in the kitchen and he met Brian Dawkins and he wasn't.
[01:24:13] Speaker A: You just hear it like the guy was a, was. It's wild. It's wild. But I apologize. I got the garrett thing wrong. But nonetheless, there's guys. And we started the what would you rather segment in our other segment. We'll have to start introducing it in this segment next year.
[01:24:30] Speaker C: When we start it, would you rather JJ Watts hair from the first half of the game or JJ watts hair from halftime on?
[01:24:36] Speaker A: Halftime on.
So in the Super bowl, obviously there was more storylines that came out. Let's talk about usher for a moment.
We don't have to go too much on this topic if you want to. I want to give it a little bit of a point because when Usher was announced as a Super bowl halftime show, there was question. We're like, oh, people wished it was Taylor Swift or people wished it was someone else.
As much as I think taylor would be a great halftime show, she'll never do it. She doesn't need to. Okay. She's too big for that. Let's just say how it is. She is. I don't think she will down the road in the future. Maybe when she's retiring. But when it comes to usher, I enjoyed the halftime show. I think for what? I'm not a big fan of usher. I don't jam to usher. I know some of his songs. I know obviously a good amount of his songs. I'm not like massive on usher, but I respect him as an artist and he's a hell of a dancer. He put on a good show, I think had the roller blades, the jacket. He had dancers going on. He had obviously little john show up. He had alicia keys show, you know, obviously. I don't think swiss beats was really liking what usher was dancing behind alicia keys, if you know what I'm talking about. You know what I'm talking about. Overall, I do grade the super bowl halftime show as a, I give it a b minus. That may be a little bit high. It's not even close to the best halftime show I've seen. Not even close. But I don't think it was bad. I think for usher's sake, he did pretty good.
I don't mind it.
[01:26:09] Speaker C: Yeah, I don't not. I've learned a couple of years ago I'm not here for the halftime shows anymore. That's not having it.
[01:26:18] Speaker A: EJ, what are you biting for what are you biting? For what are you biting?
[01:26:22] Speaker D: You couldn't have been more wrong. I was up and dancing and getting it.
My wife, right? We were watching the super bowl together at my favorite establishment, most pub.
[01:26:32] Speaker A: Most pub.
[01:26:33] Speaker D: And they're friends of the show. We get to say that for free here. But we were watching it, and as soon as I saw little john, I looked to this lady and I was like, $20 says ludicrous is up in the next 60 seconds. She's like, no way. It's 2 seconds after. Watch out. My outfits, ridiculous in the club, looking so conspicuous. And how about these women all on the prowl, dude, I was like, right there. Lyric for lyric, just getting it and I'm talking like, oh, yeah, some dance camera.
[01:27:10] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:27:10] Speaker D: My wife was so embarrassed by my behavior. It was fantastic. I couldn't have been more proud of myself. What a great halftime show. Anybody that graduated between 2000 and 2007, if you didn't like that halftime show, you're unamerican.
[01:27:24] Speaker A: I did like it. I've seen better, I think it was.
[01:27:27] Speaker D: Or non canadian for that matter.
[01:27:29] Speaker C: I was surprised I wasn't a fan. But I mean, I'm just a rock guy. That's where I'm at with it.
[01:27:34] Speaker D: I can, dude, that halftime show slapped.
[01:27:37] Speaker C: That was the little John appearance. I was doubt that pretty well. Sold me on it. The first half was a little slow.
[01:27:43] Speaker D: The beginning, if you didn't know Usher, the beginning took a minute.
[01:27:47] Speaker C: Yeah, the roller skates was impressive. The Alicia Keys bit.
[01:27:51] Speaker D: As soon as I saw Alicia Keys, I mean, bang, I was there.
[01:27:55] Speaker C: But the little John Lucratte, that kind of threw me back to the old need for speed underground days.
[01:28:00] Speaker D: Little Jermaine Dupree. Everybody thought that was Narles Barkley at first. It was not fools. That was Jermaine Dupree.
[01:28:07] Speaker C: However, apparently there's new Narles Barkley music coming.
That crossed my Twitter feed earlier today. That's my information.
[01:28:15] Speaker D: Also an Atlanta guy, isn't he?
[01:28:17] Speaker C: I believe so. I don't know. So overall, I might know his basketball team, though. You'll have to tune into our next show to find out.
[01:28:26] Speaker A: Honestly, I got to see you brought up the graduates. We're close to the same age. EJ and Justin and all. We're all close to the same age. And y'all grew up. If you went to the bar, you heard Usher.
Yeah, you heard. Oh, my.
I'm DJ. Oh, my God. Falling in love. Oh, my God. John and blank.
Yes. There's, there's so much more. I'm just thinking on the spot here. But it was overall entertaining. I know the hate online burn there was the worst half. No, it wasn't. The people that said it was the worst halftime show ever are the people that just don't like his music.
[01:28:59] Speaker D: Those are the people that are wrong.
[01:29:01] Speaker A: They're wrong 100%.
[01:29:02] Speaker C: Yeah, it was not. Definitely not the. It just was not my jam.
[01:29:06] Speaker A: Rihanna's was worse.
[01:29:07] Speaker C: I love the Eminem one. That's not everyone's jam.
[01:29:10] Speaker D: I love the Eminem one is probably the most controversial. But honestly, I enjoyed Eminem's really well. I thought this slapped harder because it hit a lot more checkboxes for all across the board than the Eminem show did.
[01:29:25] Speaker A: Rihanna.
[01:29:25] Speaker D: But I thought Eminem's had the most talent.
[01:29:27] Speaker A: I know Rihanna.
[01:29:28] Speaker C: How long was 50 cent hanging upside down in the Eminem one? Is that facts that I want to know?
[01:29:33] Speaker A: So much hate last year.
[01:29:34] Speaker D: Isn't that the same amount of time that he did in the music video that he filmed for that? Isn't that the gimmick there? That in the video, wasn't he hanging upside down doing sit ups? I think that's the reference there.
[01:29:46] Speaker A: There. You know, EJ, see, the fans that know 50 cent know. See, I don't know if you're a big fan of 50 cent, but I'm a fan of it.
[01:29:54] Speaker D: Also known as Curtis Jackson. For those that are wondering now, the.
[01:29:59] Speaker C: Prince one was pretty good. That's probably if I'm probably my all time.
[01:30:03] Speaker D: Yeah, but he made the guitar too much like a wiener.
[01:30:05] Speaker A: It was weird, lady.
[01:30:06] Speaker C: Not a purple rain in the rain. That's pretty good.
[01:30:09] Speaker D: That was dope. Or, hold on. The best halftime show of all time is Janet Jackson's boob.
True or false?
[01:30:17] Speaker A: I saw this many favorite halftime show is the Dr. Dre one with Eminem. Not going to lie. Kendrick Lamar. All those guys showed up.
[01:30:25] Speaker D: I'll go this one for me. The usher halftime show is probably my new favorite.
[01:30:28] Speaker A: That's good. See, I like to hear that because.
[01:30:31] Speaker D: That'S laughed for me.
[01:30:32] Speaker A: It was good. It wasn't bad. People didn't like the weekends either. They're wrong. That was so good too. You had the same kind of.
[01:30:39] Speaker D: Yeah, but the weekend is too much for young people. Not so much above.
[01:30:45] Speaker A: Overall, though, guys, the Super Bowl, I want to give our grades to go around. We talked about the game, obviously the Chiefs, one of the big win at the end, overtime, we saw a little extra football, little controversy in terms of some people not understanding overtime. Kyle Shanahan not pulling off in the Super bowl. Shades of losing or being up 28 three, not as much, but still losing in the Super bowl with a very talented team, very talented offense. Defense, Purdy's a real deal. McCaffrey is still McCaffrey.
I'm a big debo fan. He was great for me in fantasy. This I, despite some injury. This is a team that is going to be good still next year. The Chiefs are going to be good. The Lions are going to be good next year. Very excited. Looking forward to what next year is going to bring. But the overall grades on the Super bowl, I'll kick it off for grades on the Super bowl.
I'm going to give it a b plus. I had to hesitate there for a minute. I'm going to give it a b plus and I'm hard on that plus. I'm more on the b, but I am going to say b plus because I did it. I did say it. I like it because I think defense really shone in this game. We saw a little bit of overtime. We saw a little clutch performance by mahomes. We saw a good halftime show in general, even the pregame with post malone playing. I thought that was really cool. I'm a post malone fan as well.
I think reba did a fantastic job.
[01:32:07] Speaker D: With the yes, I'm so glad you said that because it is technically a felony to embellish the national anthem. And she almost played that thing note for note. I looked. Britt is in here. She's cooking right now. Hey, was I not impressed with reba? Say it.
I was. I almost always complain about the national anthem. Did I complain? No, that's my wife right there.
[01:32:31] Speaker A: She knows you did it. Rebo nailed it.
[01:32:33] Speaker C: Dude, I might be wrong on this, but I also think the flyover was like an all female flyover for the first time, and I don't think that got any.
[01:32:45] Speaker D: Was. I believe it was. And I think they did mention it.
I'm an air force vet. There's no way I didn't. I'm pretty sure you're right.
[01:32:53] Speaker C: I didn't catch it, but I knew going in, I watched a whole thing on it, like a half an hour thing, talking about how fired up these chicks were.
[01:33:01] Speaker D: If it wasn't this one, it was a different one. But I know that this has happened, though.
[01:33:05] Speaker A: I did not know that. Thank you for sharing that. That's really cool.
[01:33:08] Speaker D: No hikes, 100% on that.
[01:33:10] Speaker A: But I'm going to give it a b because of everything. But if you talk about the game in general, or sorry, b plus because of everything the game, I still say b plus because it had defense, there had some offense, clutch moment, it had the storylines we wanted.
I liked this Super bowl. It was really entertaining. EJ, go up.
[01:33:26] Speaker D: I was going to go b minus because I thought the game didn't have an iconic Super bowl moment.
I thought play was sloppy, but it was still a good game.
Nowhere were you not interested in what was happening. But I was going to give it a c plus or a b minus. I'll give it a b because Dave, you said it. Reaper mcIntyre, that is one of my favorite national anthems that I've ever heard. And I thought that.
[01:33:59] Speaker A: I, I chirped. Reba, not chirp. That's not the coach. When she was hired as a coach on the voice, I was like, I don't, it was, I watched the voice.
[01:34:09] Speaker D: I'm like, yep, I don't like country music that often. But Reba McIntyre, I can listen to. And honestly, being a veteran, they tell you it's a felony to embellish national anthem. She sang that thing note for note minus the very, very end, which you're allowed to get a little personal there for.
Put a little feel on it based on the crowd. I thought she did that well.
No, I really do have an appreciation for the way that she sang it. Like, whitney Houston has the greatest national anthem all.
[01:34:41] Speaker A: Yeah, but I'm going to tell you.
[01:34:42] Speaker D: That it was all about emotional, all about emotion with Whitney Houston. But after that, take away the emotion of the moment. I thought this was my favorite national anthem of all time, hands down.
[01:34:56] Speaker C: Nothing wrong with nice, clean, you know what I mean? Presentation.
[01:34:59] Speaker A: And EJ is America.
[01:35:02] Speaker D: And it's my anthem.
[01:35:04] Speaker B: It's a good one.
[01:35:06] Speaker C: Such a good one.
[01:35:07] Speaker A: EJ is America by Frederick Scott Key.
[01:35:10] Speaker C: I don't know if you're not ready to rock and roll.
[01:35:13] Speaker D: After that, you name me another national anthem where bombs are bursting in the air. Baby, we're coming.
[01:35:18] Speaker C: Yeah, they're too busy trying to fit appropriate, politically correct things into ours, so I had to bite my tongue a lot and not say anything.
[01:35:27] Speaker D: Next thing you know, we can't say bombs bursting in air because air refers to a male.
Yeah, well, air to the throne.
[01:35:34] Speaker C: If you were a canadian, they couldn't even talk about bombs bursting, so they'd have to carbon tax it.
[01:35:38] Speaker D: No, if you were talking about bombs bursting in Canada, you'd have to register it first.
[01:35:42] Speaker C: Yeah, we'd have to have the money to spend on the bombs.
[01:35:46] Speaker D: Although I will say this, I'm always really surprised. And not to get political. And I'm not trying to be. I'm always really surprised about gun laws in Canada because y'all hunt a lot.
[01:35:58] Speaker C: It's kind of a shit show.
[01:36:01] Speaker A: No comment.
[01:36:03] Speaker D: There's some silly rules.
[01:36:05] Speaker C: Yeah, there are, but the rules aren't necessarily super, so.
[01:36:11] Speaker D: Because there's nobody there.
[01:36:13] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:36:17] Speaker A: Justin, your grade, I want to give.
[01:36:22] Speaker C: It like a hard c, but the refing crew is what saved it for me. And we're going to give it like a b minus. I'm going to copy here.
[01:36:30] Speaker A: They were good.
[01:36:30] Speaker C: The refs out there. They just let them play. It's like the refs were sitting there the entire time, like, hey, listen, guys, if this Vegas thing is going to be, like, pretty regular, maybe if we don't stir it up too much here, they'll just have us back and we can just keep coming back to Vegas for the, you know, nice, lightly called game. They called a few shots when they had to, but they stayed out of, um. And to mean you just kept the clock rolling at times when the game was getting a little.
[01:36:58] Speaker D: Let them play the game.
[01:36:59] Speaker C: Yeah, they let it go.
They had a real good feel for the game and how it was going. It was well officiated game, and I was dropping bombs on the refs most of the season.
[01:37:10] Speaker D: I think that's a really good compliment, Heikel. I'm glad you brought that up. I thought that really was a well officiated.
[01:37:17] Speaker C: Honestly, for the amount of flak refs got publicly this year, the amount of conspiracies I was trying to fire up with them, I thought any other championship, we're going to watch through the rest this year, we're going to be talking about some officiating. This one was nice, clean, no problems. Good to see out there.
Congratulations.
[01:37:35] Speaker D: Good old fashioned football.
[01:37:36] Speaker C: Yeah, defensive football always doesn't make for good cinema. And I agree with EJ in saying there wasn't really a Super bowl moment, but a good football game nonetheless. And the better team won. And Andy Reid got his cheeseburgers, and.
[01:37:52] Speaker A: Taylor Swift only had 1% of screen time, just so everybody knows.
[01:37:58] Speaker D: For bringing up Taylor Swift.
[01:38:00] Speaker C: Yeah, and we only got, like, two american commercials up north here, by the way.
[01:38:05] Speaker D: You want to hear something kind of funny?
[01:38:06] Speaker A: Trailer? The Deadpool trailer.
[01:38:09] Speaker D: Man, that was solid.
[01:38:10] Speaker A: Solid.
[01:38:11] Speaker C: We got that one. And we got the Kawasaki commercial.
[01:38:14] Speaker D: You know what I thought was really funny? So we were sitting there, my wife and I were sitting there at mo's pub at 06:00, right, to get prep for the game, get our seats at like 610. A riverside auto group commercial comes on and I'm like, babe, watch this. And like 15 seconds in, there comes my ugly mug for a good five, six, 7 seconds of the commercial.
If the bar didn't give me a standing ovation for that stupid commercial right before the Super bowl, it was kind of cool.
[01:38:44] Speaker C: You got one of the cash cannons firing up business cards.
[01:38:50] Speaker A: Fellas.
[01:38:50] Speaker D: By the way, if you need a business card, I got one right here.
[01:38:54] Speaker A: There it is.
[01:38:56] Speaker D: Shameless salesperson. I always have one in my pocket. Come on, boys.
[01:38:59] Speaker A: So a couple of points we'll bring up. I want to do the pickham results and then I'm going to do a quick announcement of all the reward winners before we go. And if there's any roundtable we could. But the Pickham results, Justin Heichel can announce.
Remind everyone Justin is the regular season champion. Just so everybody knows. Credit there.
[01:39:22] Speaker C: The most.
If you understand the jokes with Indianapolis and hanging banners, that's the most suiting thing that could possibly happen to me.
Yeah. So EJ took it home. First place, finished season with 178 points. This is the closest our pickham has ever finished.
[01:39:42] Speaker D: I will say this. I'm sitting here being all braggy like, hey, money Manzilla, this is the coolest finish of all time.
[01:39:49] Speaker A: Yeah, it's the best. I'm mad, but it's like two points.
[01:39:52] Speaker C: From EJ won 78. Dave? 177. I finished 176.
That's crazy.
Honestly.
[01:40:02] Speaker A: Next 61 next year.
[01:40:04] Speaker D: I think all three of us finished at 62% this year. It is the first time in the game sports podcast in the segment series ever where we have had a one, two, three finish, all dictated by one and two points. First time ever. Normally I crush them and unfortunately I didn't.
[01:40:27] Speaker C: Next year, I think we all try to keep it under 100 losses.
[01:40:30] Speaker A: Good goal.
[01:40:32] Speaker D: No. You know what we should do?
[01:40:35] Speaker C: Or try to tell?
[01:40:36] Speaker D: No. We got to find a new way to do scoring involving the predictions of the games. So if you're off by x, let me work through this. We'll workshop it. But if you're like three points off, that's a one point loss. If you're seven points off, that's a two point. But we have to figure out how to calculate that. It'll be complicated. We'll work through it.
[01:41:00] Speaker A: Help us with that.
[01:41:01] Speaker D: Right now it doesn't matter because all you need to know, if you want to pick them, listen to me, not them again.
[01:41:06] Speaker A: You still owed a trophy for the third year in a row.
[01:41:09] Speaker D: No, not a trophy, budy, the crowd.
[01:41:13] Speaker C: It's a belt.
[01:41:16] Speaker D: I want the belt. Hey, I will say this, though. What a lot of fun this year was in the Pickham segment. I mean, every friggin week from like week five on, it was a battle. I had the most fun this year doing the pickham that I had every other year.
[01:41:31] Speaker C: When it's close like that, it just keeps it silly. Some week.
[01:41:34] Speaker D: I made stupid picks this year just to try to.
[01:41:37] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:41:38] Speaker D: Otherwise I would have crushed you all.
[01:41:40] Speaker A: And we weren't biased. This, like, I picked against the Steelers. Yeah, I was a good amount of time I picked against them. I know. EJ and I had a couple bets. EJ still owes me hot chicken wings. He has to eat five of them. I don't know if he remembers that. Doesn't remember that.
[01:41:54] Speaker D: No problem. Order them up.
You think I'm afraid of chicken wings?
[01:42:00] Speaker C: You got to eat five wings.
[01:42:02] Speaker D: You ever seen no free ads on this show, but has anybody ever seen hot ones?
[01:42:06] Speaker A: Yes.
[01:42:07] Speaker D: Did I run the gauntlet? No problem. Let's go.
[01:42:09] Speaker A: I would love to do that show. Love it. I would love to do it with him.
[01:42:12] Speaker D: Dave, buy. Here's what we'll do.
[01:42:14] Speaker C: Yeah, you can buy.
[01:42:15] Speaker D: You buy? Yeah, buy two kits and we'll eat them. And I will go, you versus me, wing for wing.
We should do two shows.
Actually, no, we should do one show. And Heikh is the moderator.
Right? And he'll ask you a question and me the same question.
[01:42:36] Speaker C: I got some east coast stuff that I got right now. This is.
[01:42:42] Speaker D: Closer.
[01:42:45] Speaker A: Red claw.
[01:42:46] Speaker D: Oh, that's, that looks spicy.
[01:42:48] Speaker C: So it's from the east coast. They make it with potatoes.
[01:42:53] Speaker A: No friads.
[01:42:54] Speaker D: It sounds a lot less spicy now.
[01:42:56] Speaker C: But no, it's got a real good zing to it.
[01:42:58] Speaker D: Normally spicy is made with peppers.
[01:43:02] Speaker C: Well, it's also got peppers, but it's got the russian potato juice in it. There.
[01:43:08] Speaker A: I got the ghost.
[01:43:09] Speaker D: So it's fuel with steroids.
[01:43:11] Speaker C: Well, yeah, a little bit of russian gas.
[01:43:14] Speaker D: America.
[01:43:14] Speaker A: Nonetheless, the last thing I want to bring up before, and I'm going to go through this quickly just to remind everyone of all the rewards that, but we want to keep this show pure. Super bowl reaction. Most valuable player, Lamar Jackson. Offensive player of the year, Christian McCaffrey. Defensive player of the year.
Miles Garrett. Not TJ Williams, offensive rookie of the year. This is the easiest choice of the season. I bet.
[01:43:37] Speaker D: Where do you go to college?
[01:43:39] Speaker A: Oh, very good quarterback. Texans defensive end Will Anderson Jr. Wins defensive rookie of the year. Comeback player of the year. Come on, the Browns. Hey, the Browns.
The flak attack.
[01:43:53] Speaker D: We cleaned up, man. We cleaned up at the NFL awards.
[01:43:55] Speaker A: Joe Flacco, coach of the year. Coach Kevin Stefanski.
[01:44:00] Speaker B: Wow.
[01:44:00] Speaker A: Almost said that wrong. Would have been a shame.
Walter Paintman of the year. Got to go. My Steelers offensive tackle Cameron Hayward.
[01:44:08] Speaker D: By the way, he is a buckeye, but I hate him because he's a Steeler. But out of everyone that was eligible for the Walter Payton man of the year award, congratulations to Cam Hayward. He has deserved this for such a long time, and he's going to wear that patch the rest of his career whether he retires this year or not.
It is, in my opinion, the Walter Payton man of the year award is the most important award of the year because it's not just about being a good player, it's about being a good person, a good humanitarian. Congratulations.
[01:44:40] Speaker A: Cam Hayward, great assistant coach of the year. Browns offensive coordinator Jim Schwartz, FedEx Aaron ground players of the year, Brock, Purdy and McCaffrey. There's more awards. I only name a few more here. Art Rooney Sportsmanship awards. Seahawks Bobby Wagner celebration of the year went to Giants quarterback Tommy DeVito with his italian inspired celebration and moment of the year CD Lamb's 90 1 yd touchdown reception from Dak Prescott was.
[01:45:05] Speaker C: I personally would like to amend the moment of the year to when the Cowboys got knocked out by the packers and the world.
[01:45:11] Speaker A: APPLAUSE yes, and let's say last, I think this is a good way to end the show. Rank Patrick Mahomes in terms of top quarterbacks of all time as of today. Where does he sit, what number? Don't say who's ahead, who's behind, what number are you putting them at? And if I'm going to give you a number, I am putting him at number. People think I'm crazy. Number three. I'm putting him at number three right now of all time and he's not even done yet.
[01:45:40] Speaker D: Ej, I think number three is a bit early.
I will say that wholeheartedly. I believe that Patrick Mahomes had the greatest chart to an NFL career that any quarterback has ever had.
And the sky doesn't even look like it's close to the mean. We're looking at the stars, the sun and other galaxies.
To be Tom Brady is an incredible feat. To be Joe Montana, Terry Bradshaw or even Joe Namath is a very difficult thing to know. There's only one guy to ever beat Peyton Manning twice in the Super bowl, and that's know Patrick Mahomes has never really had that adversary yet. And I think that there is a chapter to his career that needs to be had.
I think that in order to be considered the greatest of all time, you need to have a little bit of adversary or adversity. Excuse me. You need to have an adversary to play against. And for Peyton Manning, that was Eli and the New York Giants in the way of accomplishing some of the greatest things in NFL history. So I think that Patrick Mahomes definitely, I will agree, has or say, and if you don't agree, I don't care. But I think we can all agree that he has had the greatest start to any NFL quarterback in history, minus maybe Brock Purdy.
And I wish him all this success in the world. And I think that he is going to have a great career. And I think that we are going to see this Super bowl matchup again in the next five years. So long as these teams can keep their core together, I think the Niners are going to have a harder time doing it than the Chiefs. The Chiefs have managed to win three Super Bowls with the core that they have, including losing pieces every year, which is hard to do when you win championships.
But congratulations. Travis Kelsey, Cleveland Heights guy. Go Browns. Go Cleveland.
Anybody that knows me on this podcast, know, if you're from Cleveland, I'm with you. We ride or die together. So congratulations to the Kansas City Chiefs.
Congratulations to Jason Kelsey for having what looked like a fantastic weekend with the Rey Mysterio mask and the overalls. Was, I saw this funny meme. It's like, here's to you and me. You and me. You and me and your friend Steve. And it's just Jason Kelsey with the mask, like, just tearing it up.
[01:48:11] Speaker A: The guy was rocking out to Adele, man. The guy was singing Adele. He was listening.
[01:48:16] Speaker D: By the way, Adele is a Cleveland Browns fan, if you didn't know, because her husband.
I'm done. Yeah. Love you all. Happy NFL year. Happy to win the title again. Dave, I expect my wrestling belt three times. Send it next week.
[01:48:34] Speaker A: Justin, I want a red one, a.
[01:48:36] Speaker D: Blue one, and a black one. Just like in the WWE.
[01:48:39] Speaker C: Give me all three undisputed universal champions. EJ Russell.
[01:48:44] Speaker A: Justin, where does Mahomes land on, as they're saying, the Mount Rushmore of quarterbacks?
[01:48:51] Speaker C: I mean, I agree with EJ that three might be a little overzealous right now.
[01:48:56] Speaker D: He's not on Mount Rushmore yet.
[01:48:59] Speaker C: He's top ten for sure. I would consider him top ten. I wanted to say top 15, but I think that's a little low.
[01:49:06] Speaker D: I have a hard time putting him in front of Warren Moon, though.
[01:49:09] Speaker A: Warren Moon. Jeez. Good.
There's a lot of good ones. There's a lot of good ones.
[01:49:16] Speaker C: A lot of the quarterbacks on that top ten list didn't get gifted, Andy.
[01:49:22] Speaker D: Ben Roethlisberger, I think.
I'm not a big Ben guy, but.
[01:49:28] Speaker C: Some guys had to chew and claw their way through and earn those spots. And some guys, I think it feels.
[01:49:36] Speaker D: Like Mahomes was gifted. Even though when you look at the tape, he's not being given anything.
[01:49:41] Speaker C: No, he's not. Like, he has to work for absolutely everything. I just think the Andy Reid and that relationship just. That was the key to his success.
[01:49:51] Speaker D: By the way, does anyone else get away with yelling at Andy Reid? Other than Travis Kelsey?
[01:49:58] Speaker C: No.
[01:50:00] Speaker D: Other than maybe Patty Mahomes.
[01:50:02] Speaker C: I see a lot of people on the Internet having issue with that, but I don't really have an issue with.
[01:50:07] Speaker D: I had no issue with that. That's your best player, one of the captains on your team, telling you, give me the ball. If you're not a good enough coach that you can't hear that and listen to it and be constructive, then you're not a good coach. That's why I love Reid.
[01:50:20] Speaker C: Like, you want stuff like that, and.
[01:50:23] Speaker D: You hear what Andy Reid said in the post game interview, he's like, I love that.
[01:50:27] Speaker C: Yeah, that's exactly. And that's why Andy Reid is successful. That's why guys like him are still like. It's funny because he's like the anti bill Belichick in a sense, but some guys are either the all players coach guy or the all military.
[01:50:44] Speaker D: I think Andy Reid's a good blend of the two closing in on them all. Andy Reid's like, hey, let's go get a couple of cheeseburgers. But if you don't know how to eat these right, don't eat these fucking cheeseburgers with me.
[01:50:54] Speaker C: He's just an old school players coach. He's a players coach, but he's not letting you down easy. I don't mean, honestly, if that didn't work to Kelsey. You want Andy Reid up in your face afterwards. I don't. He's bigger than Kelsey.
[01:51:07] Speaker D: You wouldn't have Andy Reid. You'd have Mama Kelsey in your face.
[01:51:10] Speaker A: Well, true. Now, fellas, this has been the season finale of in the pocket. Another season has come, and it's been a treat. As always. We've had a good time on this season, and before you know it, we'll have next season going again as everybody knows there's a lot of big things coming up with the show and the podcast this year. And we've already transitioned it since, well, November. But even into this year, a lot of the changes, and we appreciate all the support with this show, that being the game sports podcast, all the shows affiliated with us, but also the segments that we do, we put a lot of time and effort into them. And we love the interaction that you have. Things are growing on TikTok, social media to make sure you don't hesitate to that, like follow and subscribe and interact with us. It goes a long way with us. We love the crowd interaction, the fan interaction, whatever way you want to put it. And we're very excited to continue to bring you content. And just because in the pocket is done for this season doesn't mean that we won't have football news come to you. There's the draft. I'll have EJ come on time.
[01:52:10] Speaker D: Yeah, I don't only speak football.
[01:52:12] Speaker A: Yeah, no, there's that Justin, obviously, everyone knows who knows. Justin speaks more. So there's. You'll see these faces all over the different parts.
[01:52:20] Speaker D: What does Justin cover?
[01:52:21] Speaker A: Not saying it.
The overall scope of the game, sports podcast and change of soapy shows routinely, just because in the pockets taking a break, it does leave a little bit of a hole in terms of content. But listen, Alex and I just talked for an hour last segment about WWE, other sports. So there's always that we can touch.
[01:52:40] Speaker D: On and I can always know. Leaned upon for a little bit of hockey.
There it is. I'll ruin it. I've been trying to set it up all day.
[01:52:53] Speaker A: March madness around the corner. We got baseball still. There's still WWE news going around. WrestleMania season, NHL, there's a lot of.
[01:53:00] Speaker D: Cody Rhodes versus Roman Reigns is going to light this up.
[01:53:03] Speaker A: And the NFL is.
[01:53:05] Speaker D: And the Rock's definitely going to be involved for sure.
[01:53:07] Speaker A: Draft, there's off season. There is so much content that the game will continue to bring you. And of course, interview shows. And we're going to be enhancing those shows as we go. So in the pocket is going to be taking a little bit of a vacation until big news comes up, but in particular until next year. And EJ and Justin, I appreciate all that you've done with the show this year. And we're excited to bring yet another year once kickoff happens. Next be September, right?
[01:53:34] Speaker C: September it'll be.
[01:53:35] Speaker D: Whenever I say this, because I'm the champion.
[01:53:39] Speaker C: Seven months.
[01:53:40] Speaker A: Pretty well.
[01:53:41] Speaker D: No, we're going to start talking about it as soon as the hard knock stuff comes out. So June, July, draft, excitable April. We'll be talking about it in two months.
[01:53:50] Speaker C: I was going to say combines in two weeks.
[01:53:52] Speaker A: Combine season, draft, free agency. There's a lot of news that we can touch on as shows come up.
[01:53:57] Speaker D: Well, we know there's going to be a lot of changes in the Colts organization because they stink.
[01:54:01] Speaker A: Yikes.
[01:54:02] Speaker C: I thought we didn't stink that bad, to be honest. I thought we stunk less than previous years.
[01:54:07] Speaker D: Yeah, I know. I was just trying to tell a joke. Don't be a dick. Don't get a heart on me.
[01:54:10] Speaker C: All right, Madden is now free to play on Xbox Game Pass, everybody. If you're jonesing in the offseason, Xbox.
[01:54:18] Speaker D: Gamer tag big rust nine cle. I'll play Madden. Why not?
[01:54:23] Speaker A: PS five is better. This has been the game.
[01:54:25] Speaker D: It's free because you're a cheap fuck.
[01:54:27] Speaker C: Yeah, if you got weird small hands to use the PlayStation controller.
[01:54:31] Speaker A: The Game sports podcast power if you're doing a podcast, want to join our community or be a part of the game sports podcast along with other podcasts on 91 n email 90
[email protected] again, this is the season finale of in the pocket and we had a great season. Thank you again to EJ and Justin, of course, for taking the time on this season, but you're going to see them on the other segments that we have here on the game and a lot more to come. And as you probably noticed, last week we did take the week off. That's why we had a Super bowl.
[01:55:05] Speaker D: Preview show prior, because the files were corrupted.
[01:55:10] Speaker A: And we have one episode just this week, but we got special editions coming up and a lot more content. If you're listening to us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, but mainly TikTok, we appreciate those follows. And there'll be a contest announcement coming soon on TikTok and Instagram as well. A lot of big things coming on the game. So again, this has been the finale of in the pocket. Again, thank you to you, the listeners, but also DJ and Justin. Hope you both have a good night, boys. Thank you again. Much love to you guys and we'll be talking soon.
[01:55:36] Speaker D: Love you guys. Love this group. See you next season and I'll see.
[01:55:42] Speaker A: You later, Justin, as always, my friend, thank you.
[01:55:46] Speaker C: I'll be around.
[01:55:47] Speaker A: You know where to find you're. You'll be back playing with his legos.
[01:55:51] Speaker C: Oh, yeah.
[01:55:54] Speaker D: Legos are sweet.
[01:55:55] Speaker A: And for the last time of this show for me to talk and take a breath after we have over, well over a couple of hours of content for you. I'm here to remind you, keep your stick on the ice, swing your bats, catch your touchdowns, drink your threes and shoot your shots. Booyah.
