All On Red & Kicker for MVP | The Game Sports Podcast

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Welcome to another edition of the Game Sports podcast. David McCaig here, the host of the game sports podcast powered by 91 Network. In this episode of the game, it is going to be a one segment, commercial free full hour of football content with our in the pocket segment featuring yours truly alongside EJ Russell and Justin Heikel, getting into all reactions with week one on the gridiron and all the preview for week two in the NFL. And of course, I'm gonna get a little bit conceited about my 15 and one pick Em week. Let's go. Booyah. And it's time for the Game sports podcast. This is your host, David McCaig junior. And I am joined by two of the in the pocket segment, the main hosts of the in the pocket segment going first to Justin Heikle. Justin, my friend, how you doing? [00:00:51] Speaker B: Say his name and I appear. There it is. I stole that. And I had to get it in at least once this year. So no good to be back. We got a weak NFL under our belts. And honestly, it was great. I mean, let's. Let's get into it here. [00:01:05] Speaker A: Love it. And now I'm gonna go to someone who is the defending, defending, defending. I want to change the lineup for it. I want to say it different. Okay. The one dynasty, the only, the dynasty. Thank you, EJ Russell. How's it going, EJ? [00:01:20] Speaker C: Yo. Happy to be here as always, boys. Ready to talk some football? Don't know if I'm ready to talk about the Cleveland Browns, though. Holy shit. [00:01:30] Speaker A: Honestly, fellas, I went, it's so great and refreshing to have football back. You know, Saturday, last weekend, I was actually in Boyne, Michigan for. It was a friend's bachelor party. And I got there on the Saturday. They were already golfing. And I got to enjoy the. To watch Saturday college football. It was. It was great. A lot of good surprise stories or surprise games in there, which was nice, especially if you're betting against those underdogs. Then of course, you got. [00:01:57] Speaker C: Or if you don't like Notre Dame, yikes. [00:02:00] Speaker A: And then Sunday was obviously the NFL. But before that, you had. Thursday was a. Was a great night. It was just a great weekend of football to be back at. But before we get into football, fellows, I want to make sure that I kind of get to two little housekeeping items that I was told to myself that I wanted to make sure. I say, number one, I'm wearing something called a good talk sweater. Now, there's a friend, friend of the show, he's a singer here in Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario. His name's Matthew James. He actually has a new album output on Spotify and it's called Good Talk. And he has a song that has. This song actually has over 50,000 streams on Spotify. So he's actually doing very good. I want to give him a little shout out because I shouldn't be wearing his merch unless I give him a little bit of a shout out, right? It wouldn't make any sense. [00:02:42] Speaker C: Tell him if he makes one in brown with orange lettering, I'll wear it on the podcast. Tell me that. [00:02:48] Speaker A: Good talk. And I felt it made sense because guess what, we're talking. So I want to give love to Matt. He's actually the individual who at my wedding was played, played at the ceremony at my wedding was the one playing. And the music, when we came out down the aisle, it was all acoustic. It was very nice. So I like to give love to Matt. He's a great local artist. We love supporting local in terms of here on the show. Of course, we talk national in its entirety, but we are definitely involved local. So I want to give love to that and check them out on Spotify. The second thing, I was really hoping to have this as a guest this week, but it didn't end up working out conflicting schedules. Brad Jacobs, just a random point. Team Brad Jacobs is back. Good friend of mine and obviously Olympic gold medalist is Brad Jacobs. And his team is back. And one week away until their season is back. Friend of the show, friend of mine. He enjoys our show as well, and he's been on the show multiple times. Justin knows that. And team Brad Jacobs is back and I'm excited to see him back with his new team. It's a new team, don't get me wrong, but to see him back as a skip and running team, Brad jacobs. So there's two little shouts. I want to make sure that I. [00:04:01] Speaker B: Did serious, like, side note here, and this is, I'm going to be the guy that mentioned a totally different sport right off the hop. Why don't we curl? [00:04:09] Speaker C: No. [00:04:10] Speaker B: You know what I mean? Like, that seems like a good fellas can stay hydrated while doing an activity. Activity, yeah. [00:04:17] Speaker A: Then you go for hydrates, like corn. [00:04:19] Speaker C: Hole, cornhole or bags, whatever you want to call it, just like that. But on ice. It's a canadian. Yeah. [00:04:25] Speaker B: And you got sticks. [00:04:26] Speaker A: It's fun. And I guess there's like, there's an event happening here in Sault Ste. Marie where all the big. The big dogs are coming down here. You know, I heard. I don't want to say what I, what date it is and what the event is, because I could be. [00:04:39] Speaker B: There was one in town a few years ago before, you know, the big event where, you know, shut the planet down, where it was like a pinty's curl off or whatever. And if you went down right on the ice level, they were giving out chicken wings the entire time. So obviously I was down there for a little while, got jammed up for. [00:04:56] Speaker A: A bit, but get some sauce or they. Plain wings. [00:04:58] Speaker B: No, they had little, uh, dipping sauces. Like it's the one that comes with the pinty's ones, though, so it's nothing. [00:05:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:05:04] Speaker B: So. [00:05:06] Speaker A: And speaking of wings, loves the SportsCenter bar and Grill, original home of the of the game sports podcast. Gotta make sure we give them love. Obviously, we're not at SportsCenter like we used to be back in 2016 for a few years. We've been in the office for almost a handful of years now. Since that thing shut down the world, we've. That we haven't been live on location in almost four years. So obviously the podcast changed. Everything changed. So there's, I guess, three shout outs. But I want to make sure I give love to some local there and some friends of the show, friends of mine who are doing very good for themselves, obviously, two different sports, two different hobbies, whatever way you want to look at it. But much love to that. And I think it made sense to wear that this today because we're talking, but we have football to talk about, fellas. And speaking of football, Justin, because it is on this topic, ran into Tom Annott when I was out in the grocery store. Tom Annott is a local Sault Ste. Marie football coach for the core Colts dynasty that the Korokolds have been. And he gave a lot of love to the show and he said to say hi to everyone on the show and he would like to come back on as well. So lots of love for the show today. A lot of different connections, a lot of people that tune in. So if you are listening, you aren't following. Well, you should definitely do that. But I want to make sure I get all this out of the way first, because if I save it to the end, I'm probably going to forget it. Ultimately, you heard at the beginning, it is just a one segment of this entire episode. Today we're going to be talking entirety of its football. I won't be getting to any baseball or to any hockey or wrestling or basketball. No other discussion. We are just going to devote our time today for football. So if you're looking for more content on the game, we will have more episodes upcoming. They'll get back to our routine of having all of that incorporated into an episode. So, fellas, football week one went. College went. EJ, if we have time, I'd love for you to get into some college near the end again, like we used to. Like a two minute warning. I think that would be awesome to do that if time permits. But we're going to stick to the NFL. First week one has come and it has gone. And before you know it, the season's going to be midway through and so on. So we're enjoying it. And I said this at the beginning of the show last week, and I'm going to say it again. Football. I love the separation from the end of the season until when it starts. Love it. I know there's things in between. You got the draft, you got free agency, you got little, you got things. But it's so separated and so well put together. It gets you so excited for a season. If you think of other sports, hockey is one of them. It feels like it just ended. And right around the corner, it's gonna be back, right? So, eJ, we didn't get into this too much detail, but I'm gonna go around the horn. And if we have discussed a little bit of detail last week, that's great. We're gonna go into it a little bit more here. But what separates football to create that excitement? EJ, going into getting you set for the season, it's like, you, week one comes and you're like, I need. I need to. You need, like it. You're so excited to watch. Not saying you wouldn't be excited to watch other sports, but football does something different. I think they do it so well with the difference of the end of the season to when it starts. [00:08:07] Speaker C: I think that's because there's just such a finality to it. You know, you only get 17 opportunities to win football games. And outside of those 17 weeks, you have to do everything in your power to try to improve your team. I look at a team like the Chicago Bears, right? Caleb williams becomes the first rookie quarterback to win in this league in his first performance since 2002. And that guy's name was Derek Carr, I believe, for the Houston Texans. [00:08:41] Speaker B: David. David. [00:08:42] Speaker C: David Carr. Excuse me. Derek Carr is the brother, the other one, the original cardinal. But he's the last quarterback to win his starting performance. And that was in 2002. And what I'm getting at here is the Bears were a dumpster fire last year. I mean, absolutely terrible football team that found a way to win, what, four or five games in fluky ways. But, you know, they come out, they were down 17 and nothing at halftime, come back to win that football game. That's the start of their new journey with this new quarterback. But what did they have to do? They had to go out and add Keenan Allen. They had to get Caleb Williams, had to sign these other players in order to get themselves to this place where they could win week one in a comeback fashion in the way that they did. So, you know, you look at teams like the Houston Texans, they went out and added Joe Mixon, Stefan Gibbs, and what did they come out and do? Week one, exactly what a lot of people thought they were going to do. So the reason I think, Dave, that football is so exciting and why it draws that attention is you got 7 seconds on every play to make something happen. And after that 7 seconds is over onto the next play. And you can't think about what happened in the past. You can think about plays that worked and things like that, but you just have to keep going forward. As a famous saying in football, next man up. It's the next play up. Next man up. Next quarter up. Next game up. So once one's over, you're on to the next one. In the famous words of Bill Belichick, we're on to Cincinnati, right on to the next task, on to the next mission. And once it's over, it's final. It's a final score. It even says final right on it. And you're off to the next one. And again, you only get so many opportunities in this league to get a victory. Every single moment counts. [00:10:28] Speaker A: I love that answer. Justin, what's, what do you got to add to that? [00:10:32] Speaker B: Well, I mean, it's even, like some of these guys, like, you're either, if you come out of college like you're, if you lose in college in some programs, week one, you're pooched your years over. Like, that's, at least in the NFL, you have a chance to work. You can grow. Like, you can build on your, like, week one, you lose in week one, it's not over. You like, it's. But the NFL, there's a chance to grow. And I think that's where, when you have that, like, stopgap at the end of the season where, like, in a situation like I was last year, like the Colts finished, like that game against Houston to leave the season on that, you're hungry for a lot more of that for six months. And then you have the draft and you sprinkle in, like, that talent that you see that you watch throughout the college playoffs for the most part. And you're seeing which teams those guys are going to, and you're wondering the entire summer, well, how are these guys gonna, you know, fit in on, like, the NFL does it right in terms of, like, their media presence, where they just kind of go away and then they come back a little bit, and then they go away. And then once training camp opens, like, everyone's buzzing, and then by the time, you know, later. [00:11:43] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:11:44] Speaker B: Well, I mean, they got to do something to give the Giants fans a little bit of. It's not like the team does anything during the season, so give them hard. [00:11:51] Speaker C: That's why there's fantasy football, which is another reason why people love football. [00:11:54] Speaker A: Why is fantasy football almost so much cooler than any other sports? Like our sports fantasies as well? [00:12:00] Speaker C: I think that goes back to what I was saying earlier. You only have a handful of games, right? [00:12:05] Speaker A: Your. [00:12:06] Speaker C: Your fantasy score runs through the week, and each player plays one game. It's not like fantasy baseball, where you got to look and see who's up in the starting pitcher rotation and change your lineup daily. Move this. There's so much more complexity to it that I think anybody feels like they can learn how to play fancy football. [00:12:26] Speaker B: Yeah, I got cooked in two leagues this week because McCaffrey didn't play Monday night. [00:12:31] Speaker A: That was a shot. And it wasn't like a known thing, too. It's just one of those things that. [00:12:36] Speaker B: Well, they were, they were saying all weekend. He may not and whatever, but honestly, what's his face? [00:12:42] Speaker C: Mason said he found out what, Friday. Yeah, that is in advance. [00:12:47] Speaker B: That was a little salt in the wound there, but whatever. [00:12:49] Speaker C: I mean, but I just want to add this hike. I didn't get cooked in my league. I just finished with the most points out of anybody just throwing it out there. The other league I got cooked in, though. [00:12:59] Speaker A: No, honestly, fellas, I missed, like, last year, we had a fantasy league. It was a. For this, believe it was majority of us from the show. I don't think EJ was on it, but. [00:13:09] Speaker C: Nope, no one invited me because y'all wanted someone else to win something. [00:13:12] Speaker A: Yeah, well, you know what? You had to have a chance. And Pat beat me in the finals. I remember that. But then I. We didn't resume the league this year, and I ended up not joining other leagues. I'm actually not in one this year, and I'm not going to join. I don't know if I'm going to join the hockey one again. Honestly, I just feel like I like just talking sports and doing this. As weird as that sound. I'd love to get. I'd like to in a year on, year off, I'm starting to like, you gotta do fantasy. [00:13:34] Speaker B: So you stay in touch. You can hate certain players a lot better if you, if they're under your microscope. [00:13:41] Speaker C: Well, and here's the other thing too, and I'll admit this for myself, fantasy football is what started to get me more intricately involved with the ins and outs of teams and players and what are they doing and what's the dynamic? You know, I, in a way I could say fantasy football drove me into doing this kind of talk because you learn about guys, you learn where you're from, they watch the draft sheet, draft. You get more involved in college football and then all of a sudden it's like, you know, all these guys history and then you make jokes like Will Levi's 501s. Just, you get involved. It becomes more of an event for everyone. And any average fan can feel like they're so intelligent when they play fantasy football and now they're more involved in the league. You know, football is for everyone. I love it and I think it's a great way to stay involved with game as a fan. Players shouldn't do it. [00:14:31] Speaker A: It is. You know what? We're going to do a blind ranking near the end. But I. Call me this person won't be in the blind rankings. So I'm going to mention this Brock Purdy. I was looking at a very wealth. I'm not really want to throw them. I'm not going to give any free ads here. I'm not going to say it, but there, it's a well known site to get your information, they rated Brock Purdy as the 13th ranked quarterback in the league. And some players, well, they're dumb. Here's some players ahead of them. [00:15:00] Speaker B: It's week one, Dave. Everyone can get better. [00:15:02] Speaker A: No, no, I mean as talent in general. They put Matthew Stafford ahead of Brock. [00:15:08] Speaker C: Purdy, which I'm fine with that. [00:15:10] Speaker A: You're fine with that. [00:15:12] Speaker C: He's got Warren Moon has a gold jacket. Matthew Stafford is, has better statistics than Warren Moon in almost everything. So I'm fine with it. [00:15:20] Speaker A: The next Aaron Rodgers is ahead of as he's still ahead of Brock Purdy. Yeah, I guess. Yeah. Lamar Jackson and yeah. Yeah. He is. Hundred percent. He is Jordan love. Is he? [00:15:35] Speaker C: No. [00:15:36] Speaker A: No. Okay. [00:15:37] Speaker C: You gotta give Rock Purdy the the upper hand just based on the amount of film and wins. [00:15:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:42] Speaker A: CJ Stroud is also listed ahead of him. [00:15:44] Speaker C: And I'm okay. I'm not against that. CJ Stroud put together a hell of a rookie campaign. It, depending how he does this year, then that ranking will change. [00:15:51] Speaker B: With the pressure of being an Ohio state quarterback and doing that in your first year. I think he's okay. [00:15:57] Speaker C: We all know how I feel about Ohio state quarterbacks. In the NFL draft. [00:16:00] Speaker A: The last ranked quarterback on that list is the Jarrett syndom and Bo Nicks tandem in Denver. [00:16:08] Speaker C: Is rate should be Deshaun Watson. That piece of shit. [00:16:11] Speaker A: But that's a side thing. Sorry, fellas, I got a little sidetracked there. I saw that as I was Joe Flacco, right? [00:16:18] Speaker B: Oh, you don't. I forgot someone else has them. [00:16:26] Speaker C: I'm gonna take the Colts every week until they just lose all 16 games. That's what I'm gonna do just to screw with you. Hike. I'm taking the Colts every week. I'm gonna go change my picks right now. [00:16:36] Speaker A: So this past week that went by, fellas, I, there's a lot of storylines, but the first thing we can get into before we get into what we'd liked for storyline, I was think about we do a thumbs up and a thumbs down to stay first. And I wanted to start with my thumbs up and thumbs down because I think it's very obvious where a thumbs up should be. Early MVP favor, Chris Boswell getting all the points for the Pittsburgh Steelers. As you sit there and annoy every Atlanta Falcons fan and every football fan on a team that can't get a touchdown. It's okay. Give it to Boswell. 58 yards out will win the game and the defense can win a game. The definition of the Steelers winning Steelers now football, when their defense is gross in an offense, they have one solid receiver and their quarterbacks just getting used to everything. But you know what? I think Justin Fields fit in nice. But overall, Chris Boswell is my thumbs up. This and that guy got a leg on him. What a, what a week. If you had him in fantasy, he got you more than a couple, two, three points. That's, that's for sure. And I think the thumbs down for me this week and ej, I'm sorry, but has got to be the Cowboys Browns game in general. I think that game, like I remember saying, you can look back at the clips, viewers, listeners that I said the game of the week for me was the Cowboys and the Browns. I was excited to see that, you know, Watson, Prescott and just that game, I think the pound, I thought it was going to be just booming and it was beginning the game and that game just, it didn't live up to that hype for me. And even the San Francisco and the jets game wasn't that entertaining Monday, but I loved watching it. But both games, I would have to say our thumbs down for entertainment. So overall, though, the game of the week, in my opinion, which isn't technically listed as game of the week, but Cowboys and Browns, I think that game was a letdown. So I think that was the thumbs down for me. Justin, thumbs up, thumbs down for this past week in football. [00:18:30] Speaker B: Thumbs up to the Lions fans for surviving the Cardiac cats on Sunday night there. I mean, that, that was a hell of a game. That is going to be a fun team to watch this year. [00:18:40] Speaker A: Sure is. [00:18:41] Speaker B: I mean, St. Brown didn't really get involved in the game too much. So, you know, that's obviously we're going to see that get better as the season goes along. Sam Laporte is a horse. I mean, the stuff that guy does that was so thumbs up to the Lions. I think the hype train so far is living up to expectations. My thumbs down the refs in the Colts Houston game because if we're making all these stupid rules to protect the players and then you're still allowed to go out there and suplex the quarterback over and over again, I mean, honestly, that's, if you, if they would have done that to Patrick Mahomes, the ref would have came down on a drone, dropped from the sky and would have had to take the player out of the game. That for that kind of abuse being dramatic, obviously, but I think we got to protect the young quarterbacks. That's all. [00:19:32] Speaker A: Yeah, and I. Jordan Love surprised I didn't see use that as a thumbs down. That sucks for Green Bay. [00:19:39] Speaker C: EJ thumbs up for the week. I got to give it to Saquon Barkley. Hell of a week. One performance I'm playing for division rival, three total touchdowns in his opening game of the year. I think that the Eagles offense surprised me with how they won that football game. Not that they won the football game, but how they won that football game. So I want to give Saquon Barkley my thumbs up for the week. Hell of an effort. Again, three total touchdowns. The Giants right now, as lost as they are, boy, do they probably feel stupid for losing them to the Eagles right now. I mean, they probably feel stupid for a multitude of different reasons, but I don't think anybody in the world should feel more stupid than Deshaun Watson, who is my thumbs down for the week. You know, you look at the statistics for the game, and excuse me for looking down here for a second. 265 total yards to 230. That's pretty much a wash. First downs, 15 apiece. Overall time of possession, Cleveland, 30 minutes, 54 seconds, the Cowboys, 2906. Lot of even there. But where does the game stand out? It's those two turnovers that Deshaun Watson committed, those two interceptions that he threw. I mean, he only threw for ten less yards than Dak Prescott. The most expensive quarterback in the NFL. The second most expensive quarterback in the NFL looks lost. He looks confused. He doesn't seem that he can operate Kevin Stefanski system. You know, I didn't think that week one, I'd be about as ready as I am to jump ship on Deshaun Watson. You know, people have asked me privately, and even on here, I said, if he wins games this year, all will be forgiven, because in Cleveland, the. The expectation, the desire to win is so high, especially with this team in this roster. Right. This is a defense that one year ago is number one team in the league. Why are we putting the ball into Sean Watson's hands 45 times when he clearly does not look comfortable? He was sacked six times in that game. Micah Parsons was having an absolute field day with the Cleveland Browns offensive line, and I just believe that Deshaun Watson has lost the respect and confidence of his teammates. I think it was Joel Batonio. One of my colleagues pointed this out to me, and I went back and I watched it. Joel Batonio got knocked down on a play, and Deshaun Watson went to give him his hand to help him up, and he swiped away his hand. He didn't even want his help. So, I mean, when. When arguably the best offensive lineman on the team is. Is, you know, swiping your hand away, telling you, go fuck yourself on a play. I think that there's a problem here. I think that it is almost, if not already, time to push the panic button and figure out, is Jamis Winston, who we need to bring in? Is there somebody that you can sign? You know, an experienced quarterback? Obviously, you can't get a Joe Flacco because he's sitting there in a Colts uniform. But, you know, is there somebody that you can go and grab that can maybe make a difference on this team and run the offense a little bit simpler? You know, throwing the ball 45 times is not the recipes for success in Cleveland. What did we do? Well, last year. I say weak is as I'm on the team. But what the Cleveland Browns do well last year, run the football, even with Jerome Ford after Nick Chubb's exit. And this is an offensive line that is still talented enough to get that done. Sure, there were a few pieces unhealthy, but Deshaun Watson, you have no excuses. You've had three years to get ready. You knocked the rust off last year, and you still look like a rusted out piece of shit. So figure it out. Yeah, I'm being hard on him right now because he deserves every bit of that. When you make that much guaranteed money in this league, you are expected to perform. And if you don't, you deserve all of the repercussions that come your way. That on top of the fact that another lawsuit's come out against him, and he was aware of this months ago, and they could have resolved this privately. It's just for the love of guys. And then I hope that the Browns fire him and he has to pay back every freaking dollar that he stole from that team for violating the contract that he signed. He said he wasn't going to get in any more trouble. Now all of a sudden, he's getting more trouble. I want repayment of the money. The team's got to find some way to get out from underneath them. Because this. This is about as much of a dumpster fire as the whole team in Carolina right now. [00:24:02] Speaker B: I mean, it's really. It's honestly, it's unfortunate for the Browns and Browns fans. Yeah. [00:24:07] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm pissed. It's bullshit. We spent all this money. We were a quarterback away, and everyone else is good, and you can't figure it out. Go ahead, Mike. Sorry. [00:24:16] Speaker B: No, I just. I sympathize with you. Like, the quarterback thing is, it's fucking frustrating. Like you. And then you get a guy who's really was an MVP, MVP caliber at some point, and he just can't not fuck around here. [00:24:34] Speaker C: I'll give you a quick view inside Deshaun Watson's mind hike. And then I'll let you. [00:24:43] Speaker A: And if you're wondering what EJ did as the audio listeners, he just turned off his camera. That is. That is what EJ did in representation for that. If you're on video, you got to experience that. And you're probably wondering if he glitched. No glitch. [00:24:57] Speaker C: No, I didn't glitch. I turned it off because there's nothing going on inside his head. [00:25:01] Speaker B: That was perfect. Perfect time. [00:25:03] Speaker A: Well done. Now, this, I think that you can take away a lot from this week and have a lot of discussion about it. I really do. But you, you know, there's, there's. When it started on all on Thursday, right, with the Chiefs, which I. The Ravens Chiefs game was great. It was a great. [00:25:22] Speaker C: An opener. Great opener. [00:25:24] Speaker A: It was a fantastic opener. Right? And then obviously, the Brazil game on Friday. [00:25:29] Speaker B: So, like, what was it? Those illegal formations, though, in that chair were. [00:25:33] Speaker C: What was it all of week one last year, there were only ten illegal formations called in all of week one. This year. There. I think there were over 30 illegal formation penalties called. [00:25:42] Speaker B: Almost like I couldn't figure some of them. [00:25:45] Speaker C: Same thing. [00:25:46] Speaker A: I like that new kickoff rule where if you get it in, you gotta run it. [00:25:49] Speaker C: You're the only one. [00:25:51] Speaker A: I know. I know. I. But then you got guys like Boswell or you guys that kick it out anyways, and it's just a touchback anyways. It's like they don't even want to. [00:26:01] Speaker B: As a, like, football rules traditionalist, I am disgusted. [00:26:06] Speaker C: Oh, your Devon Hester's, your Josh cribs is Aaron sprouls. Those kick returners, they never, they don't matter anymore. [00:26:15] Speaker B: The year you put Devin Hester in the hall of fame, you do this. [00:26:20] Speaker A: That's how you feel. Justin. [00:26:23] Speaker B: Like, I'm. Special teams don't really get a lot of love at all. And then, like, it's honestly one of the most exciting parts of the game. You can change the game on an absolute fucking whim. Like, we talk about story, like, we tell fairy, like, fairy tales about football games where things have gone crazy on a special teams play. [00:26:46] Speaker C: And the New Orleans, the New Orleans Saints year they won the Super bowl, the surprise onside kick. [00:26:51] Speaker B: Are you gonna get that anymore now? No. Now you have to put your hand up like you're in grade fucking two and tell the planet, hey, I would like to make an onside kick and surprise you. What? [00:27:07] Speaker C: Oh, by the way. By the way. Hike. We're throwing you a surprise birthday party next week. [00:27:11] Speaker B: Perfect. [00:27:12] Speaker A: Like, we'll be there. We'll be in the garage. We'll eat all your food. [00:27:17] Speaker B: I just, I don't understand. Like, why don't you change the kickoff? [00:27:21] Speaker C: Why? [00:27:21] Speaker B: But then the onside kick thing, you can't. And you can't make an onside kick until the fourth quarter. Or is it after half? Either or. It's stupid. [00:27:31] Speaker C: That, that one, to me, the onside kick things bugs me the most because, you know, think about that Super bowl that the New Orleans Saints won. And what was that ten? 2011, it never would have happened. You imagine the difference in that game if Sean. Sean what's his face comes out there at the halftime list, hey, we're gonna on site kick it, but nobody know it. Yeah, you couldn't do that. I. I agree with you there. It takes away the strategy of it. That's my issue with the new kickoff. [00:28:03] Speaker B: It's. It's just like they ban you, you're banning a plate of. Really? You're taking a play out of. [00:28:10] Speaker A: Runs. [00:28:11] Speaker C: Well, they've tried to take a lot of plays out of the game. You're barely allowed to tackle anymore. [00:28:15] Speaker B: I don't like, has anyone seen the sarcastic ball episode of South park? If you haven't, it's basically where we're at in the NFL right now. [00:28:24] Speaker C: I now want to watch it. [00:28:26] Speaker B: They just start making up rules on a whim to try to help, like the Denver Broncos win. [00:28:30] Speaker A: Oh, Denver. Nothing's worse than Carolina. [00:28:32] Speaker C: I thought that was just the way that the NFL operates. [00:28:35] Speaker A: There's nothing worse than Carolina, though. Boys, I'm serious to speak that any rules that they can get the change, they suck. I'm sorry. They are. They are complete ass. [00:28:45] Speaker B: I honestly don't like, I want to see the Carolina Panthers play a CFL team. [00:28:52] Speaker C: No. That's the most ridiculous thing ever. See, here's the one thing that you gentlemen don't understand clearly by that comment. The worst player on an NFL team, still going to be the best player on any other team in the planet. [00:29:06] Speaker B: I totally understand. I just want to see that these guys are still like, maybe there's guys in the UFL that aren't getting a chance because these guys are just holding up contract spots. [00:29:17] Speaker A: Like, I just, they're not. It's. [00:29:20] Speaker B: I don't, I don't like it. [00:29:22] Speaker C: Here's the worst part about these panthers, too, is they're going to come out and they're going to surprise somebody. They're going to get like two or three wins this year and they're going to ruin your week. [00:29:31] Speaker B: They're going to fuck someone in the survivor pool. [00:29:33] Speaker C: Like, I hope they screw Dave over every time they get a win because, holy cow, he had a weak one. [00:29:39] Speaker B: Did I ever know that was. That's kind of annoying. Let's talk about that. Let's. [00:29:43] Speaker A: What do you want to talk about? What do you want? [00:29:46] Speaker B: Yeah. You're 15 points in week one. [00:29:48] Speaker C: Somehow I will never financially recover from. [00:29:52] Speaker B: Neither of us will. [00:29:53] Speaker C: This, this. Honestly, Dave, a 15 and one. No one's ever had a perfect week on the show, 15 and one. I think's the record. I think that's the highest weekly total on. I've never done that. I've got lots of threes, but never a 15 and one. [00:30:08] Speaker A: You know what game screwed me? Do you know what game screwed me? Bengals, Patriots. [00:30:14] Speaker B: Yeah, well, that makes sense. That's a joke. [00:30:16] Speaker A: That's a joke. Not a joke. [00:30:18] Speaker C: That's a coaching clinic 101. The pitchers play great defense in that game. Let's please not take anything away from the New England Patriots. I think everything that they needed, they played great defense. They forced multiple turnovers. They got defensive touchdowns. You got to give the Patriots credit for the way they won that football. [00:30:35] Speaker B: The Patriots coaches knew what their strengths were, and they deployed that the entire game. We talked about, if you go back. [00:30:41] Speaker C: They played Patriot last week. [00:30:42] Speaker B: We talked about it. We said that the Patriots are going. [00:30:45] Speaker A: To surprise some teams, and they honestly. [00:30:47] Speaker B: Didn'T listen to ourselves. [00:30:49] Speaker A: Perfect week was shot because of the stupid patriots. Damn. [00:30:54] Speaker B: Story of my life story. [00:30:56] Speaker C: I may never say this again, but I'm a patriots fan right now. Just because they screwed you at a 16 and. [00:31:00] Speaker A: Oh, that was, that would have been legendary. 15 and one week. Thank you for announcing that, fellas. It was a. I looked at the score. I was like, holy shit, holy shit, holy shit. This is happening. I should have went, oh, believe me. [00:31:13] Speaker C: I said the same. I thought, I thought it was a glitch. I thought I was like, something wrong with the system. I was like, there's no way Dave's got 15 and picks, right? There's no chance. I went through and I listened. I was like, damn it, he did. And I will be clear, by the way, I did pick the Bears to win their game against the Titans. I must admit, I almost had to call you guys and take my pick away and say I didn't think he's gonna do it because of the O 14 and one or whatever, but I rode with him. I got my win on the Bears. I'll take that. [00:31:44] Speaker A: That's funny. I. So that, that's a good segue. So if you. I think that's a good little segue into the. The pick'em for this week. And then if, if you have nothing else further to discuss on week one, is there any news that you want to get further into week one before we jump into a pick him, EJ, Justin, any final, more final points? [00:32:03] Speaker C: The only point I have is fuck you, Deshaun Watson. [00:32:06] Speaker A: Well, I love it. This guy's. It's, it's certainly fair. Yep. I Browns had a neither Dak nor. [00:32:14] Speaker C: DeShawn played great, but out of the two of them, Dak was acceptable and Deshawn was trash. [00:32:20] Speaker A: I just. I feel bad if you're Brown's lie. Like you just want that success for them, even if you're in the same division, because you guys have been through so much shit. Like, I can't even understand. I can't even. [00:32:32] Speaker C: I can't just another day is the Browns fan. [00:32:35] Speaker A: Justin, why don't you lead us into our ever known pick them and kind of give everyone a little recap again? And the names. I love when you do all that. Give the full recap. I can only enjoy this. [00:32:46] Speaker B: All right. All right, so we got week one. You got a pretty solid name going this year, Dave. We got keggers, gridiron picks leading the way with 15 points and one loss this week. I'm not giving the losses every week, but that's pretty good pull for you. So we're gonna thank you. And then the Browns is the Browns. And hikes picks are tied here with eleven wins each. [00:33:14] Speaker A: Boys, that's also, by the way, I almost. [00:33:18] Speaker C: I'll finish in between 60 and 70% by the end of the year. Seventies, kind of right around where I hover usually on this show. But I would like to also admit this. Kegger's gridiron picks b c Browns. Is the Browns a minus name, because it's not the Steelers, in a way. Hike. You are an f every year. You don't even change your name, just hikes picks. You didn't even put an apostrophe. There's not even a hysterectomy. [00:33:43] Speaker B: No, there's not even an apostrophe. [00:33:45] Speaker C: He can't even use proper, you know, punctuation. [00:33:48] Speaker B: I saw that one there. You weren't wrong either. So, I mean, this isn't an english. [00:33:53] Speaker C: Class, but Jesus, give it a little ever, kid. [00:33:56] Speaker A: Oh, you laugh. You made me snort on. [00:33:58] Speaker B: Honestly, the one like, the pick I'm the most mad about last week is like, I. Why did I pick the raiders? [00:34:04] Speaker C: Yeah, that's. That's silly. [00:34:07] Speaker B: That's the only one I'm looking at, and I'm really upset about it. Like Cleveland, I thought their defense was going to pull it through. Tennessee looked fine until halftime, and then they should have just punted it the rest of the game, as per their coach. [00:34:18] Speaker C: They must have been wearing a different pair of Levi's, not the 501s. [00:34:21] Speaker A: Clearly, that got in the clip. Did you guys hear that? [00:34:25] Speaker C: That was I saw it in the clip. [00:34:27] Speaker A: Levi's 501s. You know, that. That was a good one. I think that might have been hikes. Video actually had the most streams and interaction was hikes. [00:34:36] Speaker B: I'll take it. [00:34:38] Speaker A: Too bad. 15 and one. People should have listened. I think mine had the least. So screw every. [00:34:43] Speaker C: Yeah, you lose every year for everybody. [00:34:45] Speaker A: You know, not believing in Kegger's gridiron picks. [00:34:48] Speaker B: Yeah, how about that? [00:34:49] Speaker C: He goes 15 and one and nobody listens to his picks. [00:34:52] Speaker B: Yeah. Now everyone's going to listen this week, and he's going to have a lineup of people at his house on Sunday night. [00:34:57] Speaker A: Two and doing 14. [00:34:59] Speaker B: You know what? [00:35:00] Speaker C: I'll tell you this. I'll tell you this. If he goes 16 and all, I'll tweet out his exact address. [00:35:07] Speaker A: Yeah, you got it. Yeah, you can. You can do that. That's fine. You know, it's too samaria. I feel safe. [00:35:12] Speaker B: Yeah. The Google Earth car drove by my house while I was standing in the driveway this week. So now I keep going. Refreshing to see if the picture has just me standing. [00:35:20] Speaker C: No, you gotta cheat. You gotta wait till they're coming by and, like, stand backwards in a Colts jersey and then just have, like, the name tape says, this team sucks. There's something funny. [00:35:30] Speaker B: No, just something ridiculous I don't live in. [00:35:35] Speaker C: Or what is it in the league? Was it Rodney Ruxon put a swastika in front of his driveway so that the city would come fill a pothole and then that ended up on Google Earth? Oh, God, don't do that. [00:35:46] Speaker A: No, don't do that. So here's what I'll do. The person's middle name do you guys both have middle names for? Okay, good. EJ. [00:35:57] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, there's. There's E and J. [00:36:04] Speaker A: Okay, the middle name that is closest to a goes first. [00:36:11] Speaker C: Well, pretty sure we know what mine starts with. [00:36:14] Speaker B: Mine starts with a, so. [00:36:16] Speaker A: Oh, it starts with a. Okay, so you're going first. All right, so Heiko's gonna kick us off with week two. Pick them of the 2024. 2025 season here on the. [00:36:25] Speaker B: All right, these. These are some 16 and oh picks here, guaranteed. If not, Dave will pay you back for your bets. [00:36:32] Speaker A: Yikes. [00:36:33] Speaker B: A lot of road dogs this week. Miami over Buffalo, Dallas over the Saints, Detroit over Tampa, colts over Green Bay, Tennessee over the jets, San Fran over Minnesota, Patriots over Seattle. Washington over the Giants. Chargers over Carolina. I hope Cleveland over Jacksonville, Baltimore over Vegas, Rams over Arizona, Pittsburgh over Denver. I was really hoping Russ was going to play in that game. To see how Denver played. Casey over Cincinnati, Houston over Chicago, Philly over Atlanta for tiebreakers. I got Philly 28, Atlanta 18, Houston 44, Chicago 28. Most points this week kc fewest points this week Carolina obviously, I think it's. [00:37:22] Speaker A: Gonna be unobvious to that. Okay, EJ, so. [00:37:30] Speaker C: I'm gonna be real honest here. Taking a lot of safe picks here. I'm gonna take the Dolphins at home over the Bills. That game Thursday 815. Then Sunday 01:00 p.m. i got the Cowboys over the Saints at home. Lions win at home versus the Buccaneers. However, I will say that is my underdog pick of the week. I think that the Buccaneers have enough skill, especially the way the Baker Mayfield played week one. There's another thumbs up there. Four total touchdowns from the former Cleveland Brown. That that's definitely a game where I can see the Lions getting upset, but I still take the Lions at home. Colts over the Packers. I think if Jordan loves playing, I take this the other way, but give me the Colts on the road. Jets over the Titans. I think that they're going to get better in week two. Niners over the Vikings on the road. Seahawks over the Patriots on the road. Giants are going to lose to the Washington commanders. Giants. Like I said, just like their Montreal Canadiens esque uniforms. They are a dumpster fire. Those jerseys were awful, by the way. [00:38:29] Speaker A: Thumbs down. Another thumbs down. [00:38:31] Speaker C: Yeah, thumbs down to those jerseys and the brown pants. It looks stupid. Give me the Chargers over the Panthers. Put an asterisk on that game for later. I'm taking the Jaguars over the Browns until Deshaun Watson figures it out. I'm not picking the Browns to do anything this year. Ravens over the Raiders at home. Rams win against the Cardinals on the road. That's another one. I think that could be an upset special if Kyler Murray plays similarly to what he did in week one in Marvin Harrison juniore get some touches and has a good game. I think that that can be significant to them winning at home, but I'll take the Rams on the road right now. Steelers over the Broncos. I don't care which quarterbacks playing, as long as they got a kicker, they'll win. Chiefs over the Bengals. Texans over the Bears. Eagles over the Falcons for tiebreakers. Falcons 14, Eagles 27, bears ten. Texans 34. Most points this week the charges least points Panthers. [00:39:29] Speaker A: Oh my God, EJ. I may as well even say my picks. They're just named identical dolphins, cowboys, lions, colts, jets, niners, seahawks, commanders, Chargers, jags, ravens, Rams, Steelers, the fields and Boswell kicking machine mvp, baby. Chiefs Texans, Eagles. The score 28 21. Eagles, Texans 30 416 over the Bears. Most points Chargers. Least points Panthers. [00:40:04] Speaker C: Okay, hold on. I'm contemplating switching a pick now. If they're the exact same. [00:40:11] Speaker A: It's not fun, but I swear, I swear it's. [00:40:14] Speaker C: I mean, honest, though, this week, when you look at it like, I mean, let's legitimately look at these matchups. Bills over the dolphins. You could maybe switch that. Other than that, the Cowboys, the Lions, the jets, the Niners, the Seahawks, the commanders, the Chargers, the Jags, the Ravens, the Rams, the Steelers, the Chiefs, the Eagles, the Texans. They're all huge favorites. So I. I think it's hard to be a boring week. I think it's gonna be a boring week of football, but it could be a real exciting week of fantasy. [00:40:41] Speaker A: It's a bye week. [00:40:42] Speaker B: The jets are gonna do it. I don't know. [00:40:45] Speaker A: I think hike is going to be 60 this week. [00:40:47] Speaker C: You don't think that Aaron Rodgers is going to continue to get better as the season goes on? [00:40:51] Speaker B: I think he will. [00:40:51] Speaker C: He still has Garrett Wilson there on the outside. [00:40:53] Speaker B: I think it's going to happen in week two. I think Tennessee is more mad about that loss than the jets are mad about their loss. [00:40:59] Speaker C: By the way, has anyone else noticed that Garrett Wilson and a few other players on the jets are wearing the loose quarterback sleeves instead of the tight stuff? Anybody else noticed that there's a bunch of guys on the Jets? I noticed wearing those, those long, like, think of you going to the store and buying a jersey, right. How it's loose on the sleeves. It's not scrunched up and tight on the shoulders that typically you see those position of skilled players wearing those tight shoulders. I think they're all, Rogers is doing it. Well, Rogers has always done it, but Rogers, Garrett Wilson, number four on their defense and what. And I think sauce gardener, they all had the long sleeves rolling. [00:41:34] Speaker B: That's an old timey thing, though. They want people, you gotta have that little dangle. Guys get their hands caught up in there when their hands shouldn't be places. [00:41:40] Speaker A: They are the shouldn't be places where. [00:41:42] Speaker B: Well, and when you're wearing white jerseys like they are. [00:41:44] Speaker C: Yeah, they're letting their dingle dangle. [00:41:46] Speaker B: Let the dingle dangle go get little gamesmanship. I think, hey, whatever, whatever works. [00:41:52] Speaker A: You know, at one point that I'll bring up a little clap to this as you brought up Justin, the referee in this past week. Okay. I hope that improved squid into this week. It just says, and there was a lot of interference, a lot of listening. [00:42:03] Speaker C: To blame officials for wins and losses. Your team needs to play better football. [00:42:06] Speaker B: I'm not blaming anyone for wins or loss. I'm just saying if they're changing all these rules to protect players, protect fuck players. [00:42:13] Speaker A: Yeah. It sucks about love, though, right? Like, that sucks for, like, if you're a green Bay fan, you're rattled. [00:42:18] Speaker B: If you're a lions man, you're like, it's shitty. I mean, they, what do you, it wasn't a nothing game. So he did have to be on the field. But after an hour or, you know, hour gameplay, 3 hours, 4 hours of field time on a soccer field, it's just not gonna hold up. [00:42:38] Speaker A: Yes. The other thing is the field is in question too. Right? There's been a lot of complaints from the players about Brazil isn't. [00:42:43] Speaker B: Brazil isn't putting an NFL field, did you hear that? [00:42:46] Speaker C: They're doing NFL 2030. They're gonna play a game in Iraq. Okay, that's a joke. They're just putting these games in dumb places. [00:42:57] Speaker A: Oh, okay. [00:42:58] Speaker B: I thought that Germany game, though. [00:42:59] Speaker C: Dave thought I was serious for a minute. [00:43:01] Speaker A: I'll just be, I'm making sure we. [00:43:04] Speaker B: Had, like, we had that moment this week at work where we're looking at the schedule like, oh, Germany gets the Panthers and the Giants. And the one guy's like, well, what did Germany ever do to the world to deserve that? And everyone's like, I saw that meme, too. What do you, what do you like, what do you mean? [00:43:19] Speaker C: We know why they deserve it. [00:43:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:43:21] Speaker A: The Panthers. The Panthers. The, they are. [00:43:28] Speaker C: I'm a put, I'm, no, that's gonna be the week they win where all the Jaguars fans go to Germany. They're gonna have a great weekend. We're enjoy Germany. We're gonna watch our team win, and then Caroline's gonna go out there and. [00:43:36] Speaker A: Tag this year, they might win only one this year, I think they're that bad. The Patriots. I said, oh, no, man. [00:43:44] Speaker C: It's just hard. [00:43:47] Speaker B: It's really hard to lose every one. [00:43:50] Speaker A: Even, here's the thing. [00:43:52] Speaker C: But here's the thing, too, and especially in that NFC south, is, you know, during the time when Drew Brees was the quarterback for the saints, he never won two consecutive division titles. There's just so much parity in this league and changeover game after game, year after year. It's just difficult to lose one or even two games. You tend to win just one or two games. You tend to win a few more. [00:44:14] Speaker B: We can all agree that they're probably the worst team in the league, but even the worst team in the league sometimes wins five, six games. [00:44:22] Speaker A: If they win more than three, I might just videotape. [00:44:25] Speaker C: I'd say three is the ceiling. [00:44:27] Speaker B: Yeah, 100%. I would like. I wouldn't go higher than three. I would not be. No matter what the plus was on four. Well, I'm not going there. [00:44:35] Speaker C: They bring Luke. If they magically somehow brought Luke Keekley back, then sure, four wins, but that ain't happening. [00:44:40] Speaker A: I just. [00:44:41] Speaker B: Early career Cam Newton. [00:44:44] Speaker A: I almost feel like I want to say they're not going to win all season, but I need to look at confirm their schedule before I say that. [00:44:49] Speaker C: Only two teams in history have ever done it. [00:44:51] Speaker B: Their running backs are too good for them not to at least get yards in a game. Like bryce young at some point has to figure it out. He's not terrible. [00:45:01] Speaker C: Well, in every other alabama quarterback has been quite successful. I don't think this is a forever for him. [00:45:07] Speaker B: He'll figure it out. He just doesn't. It's. Yeah, I don't know. They have a golf simulator. Come on. [00:45:13] Speaker A: They can. Viewers, listen. Viewers, listeners, comment below what you think about the panthers. Over two or under two? I'm gonna say under. Screw it. I just feel like it now. Blind ranking. Blind rankings before we wrap up the show, save it for last. So the blind ranking test didn't have time to send each person, that being justin and ej. The question that I'm gonna ask the opposite person, so they know what I'm. [00:45:36] Speaker C: And if you had, I still wouldn't have read it. [00:45:38] Speaker A: Terrific. Yes. Go visit ej at riverside. Damn. Say it for me. [00:45:45] Speaker C: Ejdeheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheh if you need a car. Riverside chrysler, dodge deep ram and escanaba 906-217-2705 call or text. Get you right through to this bad boy. [00:45:55] Speaker A: Love it. [00:45:56] Speaker C: The bat phone. [00:45:57] Speaker A: They thank you for saying it because I would have butchered it. I'm gonna do a blind ranking. I'm not. Everyone knows a blind ranking is if you've especially been a viewer and a listener of the game. We do it for with Alex for hockey. We've done it for Connor for baseball. And I'm gonna introduce it over here to football. Since it's the first week and first time we're officially doing it, I am going to keep it more simple, simplified. As the year goes on. Each week when we do our segment, we'll have our pick them. And then when we end the show, we'll have our blind ranking. Before we wrap up, that segment or episode, whatever, which way it is. So the blind ranking. Does everyone have an understanding about how it is good. [00:46:37] Speaker C: You say stuff, we don't know where it's going to go and we have to rank them. [00:46:39] Speaker A: Exactly. I'm going to give you five names and you just got to think where they're going to go. And if you. If you don't, if you. If you get it wrong, your order. Too bad. So sad. Okay, so the first thing I'm actually gonna go to EJ for coaches. Active coaches. Five. [00:47:02] Speaker C: Now hold on. I want to be clear when I. Before these come out. [00:47:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:47:06] Speaker C: Am I taking them this year or am I taking them based off of their entirety of their career? Career. [00:47:13] Speaker A: You're starting a new team in Toronto, Canada for football. [00:47:16] Speaker C: And you gotta definitely not doing that. I'm out. [00:47:20] Speaker B: That definitely does not sound like something. [00:47:22] Speaker C: I wouldn't do that. [00:47:24] Speaker A: It's like a now. But it's also who you would build your team around. [00:47:28] Speaker C: And we're starting a football in Sioux, Michigan. We're starting new NFL team, sir. Perfect. [00:47:32] Speaker A: And they're playing right out of. They're breaking down the roof of the polar and they're making a football stadium. It's a tome at the polar. That's great. Okay, so we're gonna get into the five coaches rating them from one to five. The first coach, Mike McCarthy. [00:47:50] Speaker C: Four. He's just. Every time you give him gold, he just seems to not be able to. He can find the gold and he can see that it's in the pan. But then he takes the pen, he throws it back in the river. [00:48:05] Speaker A: So for Mike McCarthy. Number next coach coming up, Doug Pederson. Peterson. [00:48:16] Speaker C: I love him. I'll put him three. You know, he's a quarterback whisperer. You know, the amount of gonads that he showed to call the Philly special with Nick Foles in their time in Philadelphia. I thought he did a great job in Philly. I think he's doing an excellent job in Jacksonville. [00:48:30] Speaker B: And I like the guy. [00:48:31] Speaker C: I'll give him three. [00:48:32] Speaker A: Next one. Shawn McVeigh. [00:48:37] Speaker C: It's real hard not to put him at one because of his ability to recall plays. Just based upon memory. He's definitely not five. So the question is two or. Yeah, I'll go one right here. I think he's one of the most brilliant minds in the NFL. You know, unless the next two guys that you mentioned are Mike Tomlin. I don't really think there's anybody else that I put in front of him just based on his brain. Maybe Kyle Shanahan, but I'll go one for now. [00:49:05] Speaker A: I wasn't going to go with obvious one, so that'll help you feel a little bit better. [00:49:09] Speaker C: So no tomlin. [00:49:11] Speaker A: Next one. Dan Campbell. [00:49:14] Speaker C: I right there. I'll put him at two. I think that's a really appropriate spot. In his short time in Detroit, he's made, you know, quite the difference on that team is a new identity. They're grittier. They. The way that they play is aggressive. It's up in your face. It's not apologetic. I love the way that they're playing football right now. I'll take Dan Campbell too, comfortably. [00:49:37] Speaker A: Last but not least, John Harbaugh. [00:49:41] Speaker C: Perfect. Last. [00:49:41] Speaker B: Fuck that guy. [00:49:43] Speaker A: So you got. [00:49:44] Speaker C: And the Ravens. [00:49:45] Speaker A: You got. [00:49:46] Speaker C: Hold on. I'm being clear. Harbaugh deserves to be higher up on this list. I think that he's definitely better coach than Doug Peterson, but because he's a Ravens coach and there was nowhere else to put him, I'm fine putting him at five. [00:50:00] Speaker A: Gotta love how I said Pederson, right? What the heck is. What am I playing hockey here? So number one, you had Sean McVeigh. [00:50:05] Speaker C: There it is. There's the hockey reference. [00:50:07] Speaker A: Sean McVeigh, one, yet two, Dan Campbell. Number three, you had Peterson. Number four, you have McCarthy. And number five, John Harbaugh. So there's youre first. [00:50:18] Speaker C: I'm even fine if it's Jim Harbot. [00:50:20] Speaker B: Five. [00:50:21] Speaker A: Not bad. [00:50:22] Speaker B: In fairness, I think EJ had the first hockey reference with the. The Habs jerseys that the drives. Oh. [00:50:30] Speaker C: Shit. Maybe right? [00:50:35] Speaker B: I'm not picking sides here, but I didn't want to call it out when he did it. [00:50:38] Speaker C: There's your. There's your clip for TikTok. Right there is height calling me out for getting it wrong. [00:50:43] Speaker A: It's already marked. I clip created for marker. [00:50:46] Speaker B: I was gonna let it slide, but then we can't do it. [00:50:49] Speaker A: What? [00:50:49] Speaker C: But does it count that they brought up the hockey podcast earlier? We'll vote later. Fans. You can. [00:50:54] Speaker B: I mean, in fairness, I'm the dick wearing a leaf sat because I couldn't. I forgot my hat out in the garage, so. And this is the one I had in the office. This one's hidden from the public. I can't wear that. Or I eat too many chicken wings. Where you should. I'm actually underneath, like, look at that. Why is that white? [00:51:12] Speaker C: What? [00:51:13] Speaker B: Why is that part of the hat white? [00:51:15] Speaker C: So that you can look up into the brim of your hat and think of looking down at the ice and misery yeah. [00:51:20] Speaker B: I look up and go, ah, 40 creek. Fuck. [00:51:25] Speaker A: Quarterbacks. Justin, you're up. Active. They're active quarterbacks. You're gonna get names and you're just gonna rate men. And it makes sense because what did we talk about besides the intro where I promoted a few people local? We talked about quarterbacks. So good way to end it as we go. So I'm going to give you the five names and you get to rate them. Here you go. [00:51:46] Speaker C: First on a second, is Deshaun Watson's name on this list? Because if put him at five, he might be. [00:51:54] Speaker A: He might not be after this episode, but, nah, you'll have to see. So first, Baker Mayfield. [00:52:06] Speaker C: That's a tough one. [00:52:07] Speaker B: That is a tough one. [00:52:09] Speaker A: I like to make it tough. I'll be typing your responses as I go. [00:52:19] Speaker B: Four. [00:52:22] Speaker C: Four. [00:52:24] Speaker B: Based on growth in the last twelve months. [00:52:28] Speaker A: Okay. I won't disagree. I won't disagree. I'm not saying this person's name, but somebody does in this site thinks that Kyler Murray is better than Baker Mayfield. I'm just saying that. I don't know if I agree with that one, but it's on the fence. All right, next up, Trevor Lawrence. [00:52:47] Speaker B: Hmm. Three. [00:52:50] Speaker A: That's a good pick. That's. I was surprised that you're going to go all go also with that. Next up, Kirk Cousins. [00:53:00] Speaker B: That's terrible. [00:53:01] Speaker C: Just as a terrible day. It's the same spot for Deshawn. [00:53:05] Speaker B: Yeah, like, that's exactly what I'm doing. But honestly, Kirk is better than Baker and Trevor Lawrence based on his resiliency to go to a couple. He played on the Washington Redskin potatoes and then managed to flip that into a contract on another team where they wanted him bad enough to pay him money. [00:53:30] Speaker C: Fully guaranteed money. [00:53:32] Speaker B: Fully guaranteed money. So. And then they kept him after he, like, went full blown white guy with the chains on the Internet. So first, and not only, and we love circle chains. Like, he ended up signing in Atlanta after that. Like, that's how much they love it. [00:53:47] Speaker C: So I think they sign him Atlanta because he put the chains on. [00:53:51] Speaker B: That's what I mean. Like, he can. That's. That's what the Atlanta Falcons want. [00:53:55] Speaker A: Yep. [00:53:56] Speaker B: As that. You know what I mean? Like, the fans are gonna get around that. Cheapest concessions in the league, by the way. [00:54:03] Speaker A: Got him. [00:54:04] Speaker B: Then back to the topics, too. He's two. [00:54:06] Speaker A: You had two. Okay, next one. Sorry. As I almost hiccup on air. The next one. You have to be careful with this one. Matthew Stafford. [00:54:20] Speaker B: Honestly, I would put on the list. [00:54:23] Speaker A: So far one in five left. [00:54:24] Speaker B: Yeah, I know, but Stafford's the only one that's won a Super bowl. [00:54:29] Speaker C: There it is. Thank. I'm glad you said that. [00:54:31] Speaker B: And the defect. It's not often when the fans in your former city still love you. So I will put on this list, as of right now, four out of. [00:54:45] Speaker A: Five, I will give him number one, Matthew Stafford. Number one. That puts your number five. You might not like it. Dak Prescott. [00:54:55] Speaker B: No, I'm fine with that. Fuck that. Fuck the Cowboys. [00:54:59] Speaker A: So you have Matthew Stafford, one cowboys. [00:55:04] Speaker C: And that was right on time. [00:55:06] Speaker A: Matthew Stafford one. Kirk Cousins two. Trevor Lawrence three. Baker Mayfield, four and five. [00:55:11] Speaker B: There's only one difference between Dak Prescott and Deshaun Watson, and it's a criminal record. [00:55:18] Speaker C: I disagree. You look at Dax regular season numbers, and they're right up there next to Patty Mahomes. Just saying. [00:55:24] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, guess what, Rick. Yeah. And what's the regular season done for Dave and I? His favorite hockey team? The same thing it's done for the Dallas Cowboys. [00:55:35] Speaker C: There you go. [00:55:35] Speaker B: Once the. Once Cowboys fans realize that that's a business and not a sports team, the world will be a lot better place. [00:55:41] Speaker C: The maple leaves are the Dallas Cowboys of the NHL. [00:55:44] Speaker B: It's. Yeah, 100%. [00:55:46] Speaker A: Yep. I actually said that to my wife while we were on the couch, and she had a pretty. She's like, why? And I said, because they can't get out of the first round, and she left. So just trip ourselves and have a lot of fun. [00:55:55] Speaker B: I'm the fan of a business. [00:55:57] Speaker A: That is. So now I'm going to do a quick little twist, because we got to go. I want to keep this under the hour, so we only have five minutes left, like I said. [00:56:04] Speaker C: Sure. [00:56:05] Speaker A: So the. I am going to do a three blind ranking three players, but you two are together. [00:56:15] Speaker C: Okay, let's go. [00:56:17] Speaker A: And we're going to keep it the same. [00:56:19] Speaker B: Chop chop. [00:56:19] Speaker C: There we go. [00:56:21] Speaker A: We're going to go with quarterbacks. We're going to keep quarterbacks. Okay. First one, Justin Herbert. [00:56:28] Speaker C: Oh, if you're going to make him go three, I got to put him at two or three. [00:56:33] Speaker B: I would say two. [00:56:34] Speaker A: Okay, we're going to go over two. All right, next up, Josh Allen. [00:56:41] Speaker C: I'm comfortable going him one. However, there are others better than him. [00:56:50] Speaker B: Talented, and an arm can rise faster and better on his feet than Herbert. [00:56:56] Speaker C: Mm hmm. The only issue with him is he, you know, can't, you know, go two, three games in a row without a. [00:57:02] Speaker B: Turnover or be accurate. [00:57:05] Speaker C: I'm fine with him. At one. I'll take. I don't want to put him at three, so I'll take one. [00:57:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:57:09] Speaker C: And I'm praying that number three is Deshaun Watson. [00:57:13] Speaker A: I was thinking that it was going to be, but it's not. I thought that'd be hilarious to do. I'm not going to do it. I'm going to make it. Joel. Joe Flack, number three. That works. [00:57:24] Speaker C: If it was my one, two three, he'd be number one in the brown starter. [00:57:28] Speaker A: Joe Flacco. Three. [00:57:29] Speaker B: Joe Flacco, though. Like, it's funny because, like, what he did for. But he is, like, the most prototypical Baltimore Ravens quarterback. Him and then what? Trent Dilfer, like, briefly. Kyle Bowler for a point in time if I'm doing a deep dive. [00:57:46] Speaker C: Kyle Bowler was pretty rough, though. [00:57:48] Speaker B: Oh, he had Todd heap, though. Todd. He was like Mark Andrews before Mark Andrews was cool. [00:57:53] Speaker C: Didn't they have Jamal Lewis when he was nasty back then, too? [00:57:56] Speaker B: Yeah, like, he had. He had a pretty. And I think Derek Mason for a brief period. Or was Derek Mason there when Steve McNair was there? [00:58:03] Speaker C: That might have been Aaron McNair. [00:58:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:58:05] Speaker C: Don't quote me. I'm not huge on my. As you said about your affinity to the cowboys. Fuck the ratings. [00:58:13] Speaker B: Yeah, no, I get it. I totally understand that. [00:58:16] Speaker A: So that one I made easy, because I thought we had limited time. So wasn't gonna make a five or anything harder. I did make three easy. I did have originally Deshaun Watson down, but given that, I thought you would react very. There's a bias, so I kept it and went to Joe Flacco. It's. That was. [00:58:32] Speaker C: I have bias there, too. He's better than Watson. [00:58:34] Speaker A: So you had Allen, Herbert and Flacco one, two and three. Three together. So as weeks go on, we'll do things separate, and then we'll do. [00:58:41] Speaker C: That was. That was a pretty weak number three, though, Dave. [00:58:44] Speaker A: It was. I kept it simple. So next week with you, too. But then after going forward, we're going to let Heikel ask us questions, and then EJ. And each week will rotate. After next week, next week will be a bit more serious. Dive into it a little harder, a little more challenging, but after that, we'll rotate questions. [00:59:04] Speaker B: Well, I'm telling you for free, I'm going offensive lineman on one of them, so. [00:59:08] Speaker A: Holy shit. [00:59:09] Speaker C: I have Joe Thomas, number one overall. [00:59:11] Speaker A: Don't go to me. Put. Put me there. Yeah, no, love it. Okay, fellas, that has been in the pocket presenting, presented. Geez. Powered on a why say presented? Powered by 91 network. And of course, the game sports podcast is the name of our podcast. Make sure you hit like phone, subscribe on all of the platforms of the game. Justin, thank you for joining me and EJ and every week and all that you do for the show. And that was fun with all this chatter after week one. [00:59:41] Speaker B: Yeah, I like this, this blind ranking thing. I think this is going to be fun. We're going to get a little silly with this throughout the year. [00:59:46] Speaker A: It's going to get good and it's great for clips. EJ, thank you for coming on the show. As always, every week. Next week we're recording on Tuesday. So what does that mean for listeners? Doesn't mean anything. It's still going to be, it's still going to be uploaded. But guess what? It's going to be on time, which is funny for us. But EJ, thank you, my friend, as always, thank you. [01:00:09] Speaker C: Happy to be here. It'll probably be if we do record next Tuesday. The reason saying if is because we are notorious for being off schedule. It'll be the first time we actually did something on schedule. So good for us. [01:00:19] Speaker A: Love that. And the hour mark has hit and we're hitting the sign off. Time management is good today. I want to say thank you to all the viewers and listeners for taking the time to join us here on the game for a full hour of talking football. And as mentioned, we are not getting into anything else for this show. But again, I want to make sure I give a little love again to Matthew James friend and also local musician here in Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario. And to Brad Jacobs, again for team Jacobs game. Put back up. So there's another little thing. And of course, football's back. What a great week one. And we hope that you enjoyed the full hour of talk for football because it is a little break to just talk the one sport for an episode and take a break about the other sports. Because there is one sport around the corner that's going to break both Justin and I's hearts this year. Didn't say the title. EJ's the world first curling season. Yeah, love that. As Justin shows the hats and every show, I'm going to say that I love your background. Every show. It's. It's fantastic. Justin's background is fantastic. [01:01:19] Speaker C: Oh, forget the picture. My stepdaughter in the background, you piece of shit. [01:01:22] Speaker A: Yeah, Dave, I forgot to put your trophy up there. [01:01:26] Speaker C: I noticed that, by the way, and that's because it's my trophy. It should be in the mail and on its way here. [01:01:32] Speaker B: Customs. Customs. [01:01:35] Speaker A: And I hope everyone enjoys their week. Okay, I'm gonna remind you, keep your sticks on the ice. Ring of bats, catch a touchdown, join your threes and shoot your shots. Booyah. Two it.